Can I be told to come in early?

Barny1979

I'm sure they'll be !!!!!ing and moaning again this time next year, about their new employer

unforeseen

SummerSunshine2 wrote: »

@Sncjw because I asked them. So bet all you like... they didn’t come in early.

Maybe it was a test of attitude?

Congratulations, you failed admirably

DCFC79

suki1964 wrote: »

blimey, is this thread still running two days past Christmas Eve?

Im surprised as much as you, I expected it to have dropped off by now.

Sncjw

I think they were widing you up to see how you reacted.

getmore4less

Op is now and expert on sainsbury contracts!

SummerSunshine2

@Getmore4less as a 1.5 day a week Sainsbury worker yes I’m an “expert” for telling them to check their contact.

Just shows the caliber of this forum if you read all the above posts..... (and follow their posting history).

z1a

SummerSunshine2 wrote: »

Just shows the caliber

Hmmm .

Barny1979

SummerSunshine2 wrote: »

@Getmore4less as a 1.5 day a week Sainsbury worker yes I’m an “expert” for telling them to check their contact.

Do you shelf stack or work in the back office?

cool-dog

Les79 wrote: »

I think that is very cut-throat. I wouldn't want to have dealings with your wife.


People have lives outside of work and if they are contracted to 9-5 + breaks then the EMPLOYER Should respect that. If you get people who go "above and beyond" that then fair play, but there's no need to penalise anyone who doesn't go "above and beyond" despite meeting their contractual obligations.


The ONLY potentially valid point you make is "leaving critical work", which can go either way. Either the employee has poor time-management skills, or the workload forces people to work beyond their core hours. I'd love to know which one it is...


I'd be interested to know what sort of metrics your wife's bank has in regards to giving out bonuses (as per the EMPLOYEE CONTRACT). Work more than your contracted hours? Don't take lunches? The only legitimate case you have made is "leaving critical work". If this is a reason for preventing a bonus then fair enough, however it has NO RELEVANCE TO OP'S POST (they haven't left "critical work").


So let's have it out, what is the reason for the snub of the bonus in your wife's case?

Exactly, I have always worked hard (still do), in my last job put the extra in, worked extra unpaid hours etc, spent many years without payrises or promotions. but when I hit hard times personally (Dad dying, Mum being diagnosed with Parkinsons, partner being hospitalised several times and needing to employ a full time carer and my dog having to be put to sleep all within 3 months) which work were aware of, but still put me on a performance improvement plan and showing no flexibility from their side. You do then realise there is no point putting in more unpaid hours, yes work hard and well, but beyond that there is no point. Needless to say I found a new job, to the surprise of my then manager.

I am a full time carer outside of work for my disabled partner, so usually am unable to work beyond my contracted hours, and my lunch break is the only time I have to myself, so unless absolutely critical don't like working through. So not everyone is able to work outside of their contracted hours, many people have kids so are in the same boat. To pass hard workers over for a bonus because some people can stay longer is probably discriminatory.

Ja7188

Exactly, I have always worked hard (still do), in my last job put the extra in, worked extra unpaid hours etc, spent many years without payrises or promotions. but when I hit hard times personally (Dad dying, Mum being diagnosed with Parkinsons, partner being hospitalised several times and needing to employ a full time carer and my dog having to be put to sleep all within 3 months) which work were aware of, but still put me on a performance improvement plan and showing no flexibility from their side. You do then realise there is no point putting in more unpaid hours, yes work hard and well, but beyond that there is no point. Needless to say I found a new job, to the surprise of my then manager.

Sounds like you went through a very rough time and you clearly didn't have the best manager - but in my experience, there's every point in going above and beyond in *most* organisations assuming that you're after progression.

I am a full time carer outside of work for my disabled partner, so usually am unable to work beyond my contracted hours, and my lunch break is the only time I have to myself, so unless absolutely critical don't like working through. So not everyone is able to work outside of their contracted hours, many people have kids so are in the same boat. To pass hard workers over for a bonus because some people can stay longer is probably discriminatory.

I sympathise with your circumstances - however, pretty much every role I've ever had has included some form of bonus/ commission structure and I'm fairly sure that in each case, it has been stated that any and all payments over and above basic salary are entirely at the company's discretion - so I suspect that any claim of discrimination would get anywhere. Others who are more familiar with the legal aspects may have a different view...