Do you run Linux - if not why?

esuhl

cellblockH wrote: »

If we were on linux. being such a unique small fault would we have found it? At home is easy, as there is no real infrastructure, but in a big org?

I haven't managed large networks myself, but I thought that the reason that Linux was used in web servers and production studios was that it was easier than Windows to scale up complex systems, so maintenance costs are lower...?

cellblockH

psychic_teabag wrote: »

You can buy support hours for linux too. Various organisations sell it - it's one way they can make money to pay for development.

We have 2 tiers of support for linux. I have not had that much dealings with them, but believe from my colleagues that they look after linux only, rather than a system, from our Oracle backup issue.

I'm sure MS also use some of their gain for development too

cellblockH

esuhl wrote: »

I haven't managed large networks myself, but I thought that the reason that Linux was used in web servers and production studios was that it was easier than Windows to scale up complex systems, so maintenance costs are lower...?

Find it is on where the apps work, then cost secondary. We are not that big, and only have about 2000 servers. Met a good few people in business having 4000+ on one floor, and they have multiple floors.

About 8 years and 3 years we had both Dell and Fujitsu hardware engineer that I met. Was curious about the Linux footprint. The answer was on both occasions about 50-50.

Was told in victoria (expensive part of london), one customer had a server farm of over 1000 linux machines as web servers, but some windows ones too

Another chap works for a gene research org, think each blade supports 2 cpus, 2 blades to one U, and think the stack is about 70 U high - about 280 cpus, and is a Beowulf Cluster

prowla

movilogo wrote: »

Then you are already running Linux and paid a big price for it too

It's not Linux - it's based on BSD UNIX.

prowla

esuhl wrote: »

Users shouldn't need any hand-holding. But system administrators might, especially if they don't understand the underlying principles of the system they're trying to administer. :-/

Using GNU/Linux on the desktop requires at least some investment of time and effort to understand the basics and how to identify/diagnose an issue.

Helpers on Linux forums are mostly trying to identify usage cases and bugs. They're not so inclined to help if (they think) you just haven't read the documentation or already tried to fix the problem yourself.:-/ Harsh but fair...?

Using any computer system requires an investment and skilling up.

DocQuincy

I love Linux (my favourite distro is Fedora since I am a developer but I run Antergos on my second machine in the office that I mainly use for YouTube. I've used a lot of others: Mint, Elementary, Deepin, Manjaro, Ubuntu and a couple of others) but I don't think it will ever be a success for the desktop in terms of popularity. ChromeOS is probably the most successful attempt, if you class that as Linux (I think it's Gentoo-based).


1. Most people don't care about the OS, so long as they can go online and read emails they don't care so trying out Linux is not something they are interested in
2. Linux has lots of free software but often an open source counterpart written by one person as a hobby can't compete with a commercial Windows or Mac equivalent

3. If something does go wrong, even something relatively minor, on Linux and you need to delve into the command line and config files it is going to massively faze the average user and they'll give up


I've never managed to use Linux as my main machine since I need the Adobe suite and GIMP, Inkscape, etc just can't compete (though they are powerful). For developing though Linux is king for me. I have a new iMac and a two year old Zenbook and the latter wipes the floor with the former when it comes to compiles SCSS and JavaScript. If I could use Linux exclusively I would but I can't see that day ever coming unfortunately.


The Linux community is amazing though the the whole eco-system of Linux and how it is maintained is nothing short of incredible.

buglawton

prowla wrote: »

Using any computer system requires an investment and skilling up.

A smartphone is a complete computer in any sense of the word.

slinga

letsbehonest wrote: »

I use Linux Mint and Win 7 in a duel boot on my laptop, there is nothing complicated about Mint in fact I am now using it more than Windows one good point is that you don't need anti virus software with it.

What is wrong with running anti virus software?????

psychic_teabag

slinga wrote: »

What is wrong with running anti virus software?????

Every machine I've ever had to run it on has slowed down significantly as a result.

motorguy

psychic_teabag wrote: »

Every machine I've ever had to run it on has slowed down significantly as a result.

You must either have had awful machines or awful AV.

I'm using AVG on this particular laptop and CPU usage for it is sitting at 0.1%.

Seems like another "problem" Linux users have had with Windows that doesnt affect the bulk of users.