Squeaky! (merged with Q and A)

pavlovs_dog

can i just take a moment to remind you all of this






did i miss the point completely every time i've clicked on that button these past few months i've been a member? am i missing something here?

perhaps it would be favourable if we all shut up, laid low, or went away, then there would be nothing to police or lock, no one to upset, or not please all of the time.


im sorry if i seem harsh, but quite frankly i am well and truly fed up with the way this board has seen to be headed these last few weeks, the locking of threads, heavy policing, deleting or editing threads without informing the OP etc etc etc, and if we cant sit down and sort it out like the adults we are supposed to be then we wont have much of a forum left at all, chat or otherwise

Curry_Queen

Pat_ wrote:

Now don't take this the wrong way elvis.;)


But really think about what you said above.:think:

Can you imagine what it would be like without board guides.:eek:

I think he was saying it very tongue-in-cheek Pat ... or at least that's the way I interpreted it, as in injection of humour into a rather serious thread

Curry_Queen

I did not post one of those quotes!!!!

Please go back and check your quotes.



In fact I posted neither of them!!!!! :mad:


Please make sure you know who you're replying to next time :rolleyes:


Edit: You may well delete your post Cristin to hide it from everyone but I have C&P it and I can tell you I'm not at all happy about what you said.

Murtle

Pat_ wrote:

They are going to find a big loss on this board now Squeaky with out you.

I don't think this really needs to turn into a them and us situation. No one has asked Squeaky to leave, in fact many people asked him to reconsider, but we are all grown ups and can make up our own minds.

I don't like the way this is turning, it started off as a please can we and has turned into he said she said he did she did....

Not everyone GET OUT OF THE SAND PIT AND GO BACK TO POSTING USEFUL THREADS. (ps this is said tongue in check, I don't really mind where you play!!!!)

love to you all

x x x

cristin

Curry_Queen wrote:

I did not post one of those quotes!!!!

Please go back and check your quotes.



In fact I posted neither of them!!!!! :mad:


Please make sure you know who you're replying to next time :rolleyes:

Just wanted to say I am so Sorry..... only excuse is that this is what happens when you do 50 things at once (feed baby, make dinner, change nappies, try and send some emails...normal sahm stuff)

Hope I am forgiven

cristin

cristin

Edit: this was my original post, nothing to do with Curry_Queen at all. so I apologise again.

I have cut down my response considerably, as I don’t want to bore people. But, I have to say I am a very confused. On one hand Queenie, you seem to be saying the coffee shop in old style should never have been started because it wasn’t discussed properly at the beginning and on the other, that we must keep it at all costs because so many people out there need a good chat during the day (I wholeheartedly agree!)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Queenie

The Arms has a very unique and special "feel" and flavour to it. Very few "sensible" conversations take place in there - it's light hearted, fun, flippant and cheeky! The Arms has 3 sub-forums: Discussion, Vent and Funny Money.





Again I am sorry but am confused. What is this special “feel” and flavour you keep going on about? Lots of the posts in the Old style coffee shop and Money Arms Coffee corner are very similar (e.g. you seem to discuss eating cakes a lot !!!!!) If you feel that strongly, why can’t we start a 4th forum in Money Saving Arms just for old stylers, so that we can recreate that “special old style feel”.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queenie

With the rise in members - many of whom are at home, often without adult company for much of the time - there would appear to be a need for a place to "drop in" and just have a chat about how your day is going ... the fact remains there does appear to be a demand for it!





Now I am not confused because this is precisely my point. I would think it is more logical to have all the chat areas in the same place, and by chat I mean talking about anything and everything – so that I can really have a "chin wag" and discuss what I want, without having to jump from forum to forum finding where the conversation is! I can ask for a hug, tea and old style sympathy in the right chat area because I only have to go to one area.
How on earth is a newbie supposed to know there is a chat area/coffee shop in Old style, unless they come across it by accident? Also, if they find it, they would then probably be too intimidated to join in, as it seems to be restricted to just a few users. I have been a member of the MSE forum for a while, but have never had the courage to post in the old style coffee shop. I have noticed that some people don’t get a very nice welcome or even a response – how welcoming and encouraging. But I suppose it really depends on who you are and it is different for certain people. Queenie you have posted so many messages in there, some funny, some flippant, some very useful, but as a newbie how will I ever find out about them and be encouraged to have that chat that I so desperately need, if I can't find it, and am too intimidated to join in.


Cristin (a sahm!)

PS I will be deleting this post myself in a little while
Edit: After reading the following posts, I have been convinced to not delete this post after all

pavlovs_dog

as far as i can see there seems to be 2 issues that are bothering people here

1. for all the good will in the world on their half, over zealous board guiding
2. the chat area for old stylers.


IMHO, the issue with this old style chat arena HAS and in in essence still is
that

a) as noted by the big cheese himself, old style has a unique flavour that he would like to see preserved

b) rightly or wrongly, people tend to stick to the boards that are most pertinent to their lives, and in doing so get to know a certain range of posters rather well.

c) people generally do not and are not likely to wander into other foums on the board that they see to have no bearing on their life.

d) the moneysavers arms is one of those boards with a very unique atmosphere, frequented by a set few. as a result, there are in-jokes, leavig many feeling out of the circle, and unless you take the time and patience to fully integrate yourself into such a group, it inevitably ends up looking clique-y to an outsider (though this is one of the most un-clique-y and most welcoming boards around).

e) as a result of point d), most people are put off going in there to socialise, because it is like trying to become part of your boyfriend/girlfriends social circle, who have known each other since time began, and as far as they are concerned, you have only existed since lunchtime on thursday when they met you for drinks. (i know they dont mean to be unwelcoming or intimidating, it just feels that way sometimes)

f) like the arms, old style is also frequented by its regular group of sad people with no lives who roam the internet all day (:D), only seeking daylight to replenish their stocks of vinegar and chicken feed. in a similar style, there are in-jokes, a sense of belonging, family almost if you will.

g) in light of points a) through f) is it really that hard to understand why people on this forum dont want to have their coffee shop 'shoved' into a corner of the arms, or restricted to one thread that is already far to long and impossible to follow? (on a side point, another board i am a member of attempted a similar thing, and after opening the third version of the thread because the others got too long and wouldnt load properly, caused PCs to crash etc, they admitted defeat and opened a subforum)

h) the reason people are calling for a subforum is because they want somewhere to go and do the 'my cat's just brought me home a dead bird about the size of a pigeon...how long do you think it will take in the slow cooker?'/ 'is peas and sweetcorn better than peas and carrots with x?'/ how gloopy is your laundry gloop?/'how much is that HM choccie cake from so-and-so's recipe? type random /crazy /banal /meaningless /entertaining /coffee-over monitor-spurt-inducing stuff that deviates from the salient issues being discussed in the main forum (these type of things seeming to be the cause of irritation to those that have complained about the chattiness of the board ?)

i) as noted by the big cheese, there is a unique and special atmosphere to old style, its not a case of being anti-social and not wanting to mix with other memebers on the board, its about being able to go somewhere where you know you can discuss the things that have happened/are important to you without having to EXPLAIN why the fact that you have run out of vinegar and the shops wont be open for another 3 days cos its a bank holiday is such a disaster, or why you loose sleep at night over the lack of gloop to your HM laundry mush, and why your slow cooker would be the first in line to back the 48 hour directive (slow cookers deserve a rest too! :rotfl: )

what the old stylers want is a place where they will get implicit understanding about the way they choose to live their lives.

j)no matter what time of day you log on, there is always always always something going on in this forum, and i would bet my hat that it is one of the most popular and subscribed to forums on the board. consequently, is the demand for a subforum really that unreasonable? its not as if it wouldnt get used?




is this really that hard to understand? does a subforum really need to be that much of an issue?

*steps of soap box and hands megaphone to someone else*

apprentice_tycoon

pavlovs_dog wrote:

h) the reason people are calling for a subforum is because they want somewhere to go and do the 'my cat's just brought me home a dead bird about the size of a pigeon...how long do you think it will take in the slow cooker?

It's been a funny old day with things said that perhaps shouldn't have been said....but I will treasure Pavlovs idea of what to put in a slow cooker........

elona

Very well said!!!

It would be a sad thing if questions were just answered matter of factly as one of the best things about this forum is its ability to adapt and grow.

Some of the best threads have grown out of random chit chat and the amount of support and encouragement is heartwarming!

margaret_3

I want to say two things!
Firstly, I've thanked someone TWICE and I didn't want to say thanks at all. I meant to click on 'quote.' Could a bg delete my thanks please?
Secondly, I really don't know what this is all about and I've been posting for quite a while here. I haven't noticed any unpleasantness. However, I know that someone has had a go at Squeaky and that's a shame since he has done so much to keep this forum going.
Couldn't everyone be friends again?
Margaret