If there is a second referendum ...

Thrugelmir

Takedap wrote: »

Average UK household debt currently stands at £15,385, not including mortgages. Are you sure that everyone can negate a 10% rise in the cost of living just by shopping somewhere else?

Debt can be defaulted on. Debt is a another question entirely. That's not Brexit related.

David_Evans

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Equally concerning are drugs and people trafficking. Open borders has openly changed the culture in this country for the worse. Disregard for the most basic of laws and regulations is common too.

I've never been stabbed, trafficked or forced to take drugs.

But I have seen my currency (further) devalued and my EU citizenship / passport threatened.

Thrugelmir

David_Evans wrote: »

I've never been stabbed, trafficked or forced to take drugs.

So your only concern is for yourself. Not the wider community.

David_Evans

Thrugelmir wrote: »

So your only concern is for yourself. Not the wider community.

Nobody I know has ever been stabbed, trafficked or forced to take drugs.

I think there's a fair bit of MSM exaggeration about all this.

Thrugelmir

David_Evans wrote: »

I think there's a fair bit of MSM exaggeration about all this.

Attend a local police briefing you may find there's more going on in your locality than you appreciate. Major concerns over the exploitation of vunerable people around here with regards to the drugs trade.

Crashy_Time

phillw wrote: »

You're right, we can't just turn back the clock as there are no time machines available.

The EU would let us reverse article 50. The problem is selling it to the leavers. All the time Boris and Rees Mogg have personal agendas, then that is unlikely to be allowed to happen.

I would introduce mandatory voting and have a referendum longer than a day, to make sure everyone got to have their vote. Not everyone registered voted last time and we've had another 2 years of people gaining the right to vote. It's such an important decision, I would probably even lower the voting age.

I don't want to live out my life listening to the leave voters moaning about how they weren't warned what would happen if we left, I want to make sure everyone knows and takes responsibility.

Desperate stuff, you assume that new voters are automatically brainwashed to vote for the EU Superstate, and ignore that there was an unprecedented turnout for the original referendum. It is over, done dusted and counted, to go back and try to overturn that vote now is not going to happen, way too dangerous for the political class. The SNP tried the lower voting age stunt before the independence ref. and guess what, it didn`t work.

Crashy_Time

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/high-turnout-for-eu-referendum-vote-could-break-uk-records/


and the youth had their shot as well.....


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/09/young-people-referendum-turnout-brexit-twice-as-high


Bye Bye EU!

David_Evans

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Desperate stuff, you assume that new voters are automatically brainwashed to vote for the EU Superstate, and ignore that there was an unprecedented turnout for the original referendum. It is over, done dusted and counted, to go back and try to overturn that vote now is not going to happen, way too dangerous for the political class. The SNP tried the lower voting age stunt before the independence ref. and guess what, it didn`t work.

I think this issue will drag on for years.
Events will occur in Europe,.
Things will change etc.
Who predicted the Berlin wall would fall etc in 1989?

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Debt can be defaulted on. Debt is a another question entirely. That's not Brexit related.

Debt can be defaulted on, but it makes any furtherbdebt very hard to achieve.
It's generally not wise to default on debts.

mayonnaise

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Equally concerning are drugs and people trafficking. Open borders has openly changed the culture in this country for the worse. Disregard for the most basic of laws and regulations is common too.

Drug related crime and people trafficking is mostly committed by the native British.

Your fear for the other and 'open borders' is clouding your judgment. As usual.