If there is a second referendum ...

Thrugelmir

David_Evans wrote: »

I'm well aware all this stuff goes on.
My point is that it's easily avoided.

For some people it forms part of their daily work. Walking away and pretending it doesn't happen solves nothing. If anything it may well be far closer than you realise

David_Evans

Thrugelmir wrote: »

For some people it forms part of their daily work. Walking away and pretending it doesn't happen solves nothing. If anything it may well be far closer than you realise

Well, obviously if I was a police officer I would expect to encounter crime. If not, I'd be redundant.
But crime only affects most people when it is committed against them.
Burglary and robbery would worry me if they were a real threat. But I don't see how trafficking and drugs is any of my business.

David_Evans

smipsy wrote: »

as opposed to the total lack of ethnic and religious tensions in the UK, I suppose

There were more 'mixed' marriages in Yugoslavia than there are in the UK today.

And the UK is becoming less integrated in some respects.

David_Evans

cogito wrote: »

Yugoslavia was never stable. The only time that it appeared to be was when Tito was in charge but ethnic and religious tensions were always simmering away. They still are and it won't take much to kick things off again.

True. But Tito did keep it together. If his govt had retained control for another 30 or so years - integration would probably have continued beyond the point where war was a threat.

POPPYOSCAR

David_Evans wrote: »

Well, obviously if I was a police officer I would expect to encounter crime. If not, I'd be redundant.
But crime only affects most people when it is committed against them.
Burglary and robbery would worry me if they were a real threat. But I don't see how trafficking and drugs is any of my business.

Coming to a town near you soon...........

You will understand then,

Arklight

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Open borders makes transportation of cargoes far easier.......

I merely referred to a changing culture earlier. Not to any group of people in particular. We have people living from many different countries here in the UK. Some struggle to adapt to the British way of life. Or integrate fully. While people are are the same. We do differ. Young people are influenced by their peers. That's the real concern.

The UK doesn't have open borders and never has. There is no passport free travel into or out of the British Isles.

The rest of your post is a hotchpotch of tired anti foreigner axioms.

There are foreigners.

They're different to us!

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!

Cobblers.

cogito

David_Evans wrote: »

True. But Tito did keep it together. If his govt had retained control for another 30 or so years - integration would probably have continued beyond the point where war was a threat.

Have you ever traveled through Herzegovina? It's a hopeless mess and always will be. You have a toxic mix of Serbs, Bosnians and Croats, Muslims and Christians. Pass from Croatia into Bosnia and you immediately step into a different world as you leave the old Hapsburg Empire and go into the Ottoman world. The possibility of integration is zero.

Thrugelmir

David_Evans wrote: »

Well, obviously if I was a police officer I would expect to encounter crime. If not, I'd be redundant.
But crime only affects most people when it is committed against them.
Burglary and robbery would worry me if they were a real threat. But I don't see how trafficking and drugs is any of my business.

One example. No teenage children then? We've (coerced ) kids running errands here. Why do the drugs gangs use them? Because they'll receive lesser sentences in the courts. Lo behold anyone that misappropriates any money. Getting beaten up is a consequence. Likewise even if moved to a relative elsewhere in the country they are getting tracked down.

The concern is that'll fall into a cycle of crime. The rewards are to good. Far better than a minimum wage job. The police have gone as far as confiscating items such as their £300 designer trainers and auctioning them off.

Kids of all classes by the way. Once in they find it hard to escape.

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The concern is that'll fall into a cycle of crime. The rewards are to good. Far better than a minimum wage job. The police have gone as far as confiscating items such as their £300 designer trainers and auctioning them off.

Yes, this is obviously bad. What has it got to do with a second referendum?

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Open borders makes transportation of cargoes far easier.......

Being in the EU or not will make no difference to drugs being imported. They are illegal now, they will be no more illegal after brexit. All that will happen is that legal goods will be harder to import.

Crashy_Time wrote: »

you assume that new voters are automatically brainwashed to vote for the EU Superstate,

No, I just don't think they've been brain washed by the daily mail. Young people are way more inclusive and less bigotted. But hey, you're the ones that are going to carry the can forever when they find out you've stolen their future.

POPPYOSCAR

David_Evans wrote: »

I'm well aware all this stuff goes on.
My point is that it's easily avoided.

Is it?

Depends where you live.

When you have teenagers dealing drugs outside the local shops at 3.30pm not so easy.

And then when a teenager is stabbed.......

And no not an inner city but a small town that never had the problem before.