If there is a second referendum ...

phillw

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Depends where you live.

There are no easy answers, but I don't think the way that the government is dealing with drug addicts is at all helpful. There is a complete lack of empathy all round, making drugs illegal doesn't really achieve anything. If you're a drug addict then your life is already very very bad. Being shunned and locked away makes it worse, the only way to cope is to take more drugs.

Thrugelmir

phillw wrote: »

There are no easy answers, but I don't think the way that the government is dealing with drug addicts is at all helpful. There is a complete lack of empathy all round, making drugs illegal doesn't really achieve anything. If you're a drug addict then your life is already very very bad. Being shunned and locked away makes it worse, the only way to cope is to take more drugs.

Broaden your horizons. Not just junkies. Cocaine users earn well above the average wage. As not a cheap habit. Their habit is contributing to the industry of crime though. This is a social issue. Not one that can be addressed solely by Government.

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Broaden your horizons. Not just junkies. Cocaine users earn well above the average wage. As not a cheap habit. Their habit is contributing to the industry of crime though. This is a social issue. Not one that can be addressed solely by Government.

Broaden yours https://scholarlycommons.law.wlu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4278&context=wlulr

If someone wants to do a line of cocaine then as long as they don't drive afterwards, I don't care. Legalise it and regulate it & most of the problems disappear. The dealers won't be sending kids out on the county lines.

Of course if you want to be obstinate and say that drugs need to be illegal, then you're contributing to the industry of crime.

People will get hold of drugs whichever way it goes, I can assure you of that. The more you fight it, the worse it gets for you.

POPPYOSCAR

phillw wrote: »

Broaden yours https://scholarlycommons.law.wlu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4278&context=wlulr

If someone wants to do a line of cocaine then as long as they don't drive afterwards, I don't care. Legalise it and regulate it & most of the problems disappear. The dealers won't be sending kids out on the county lines.

Of course if you want to be obstinate and say that drugs need to be illegal, then you're contributing to the industry of crime.

People will get hold of drugs whichever way it goes, I can assure you of that. The more you fight it, the worse it gets for you.

Only we are not fighting it.

The police have been informed numerous times about the drug dealing going on and done nothing about it.

One of the problems we face is increased crime in our area due to a lack of police presence in our town, we are seen as an easy touch now.

We have people just walking into shops and walking out with things. I was witness to this not long ago. Staff have been told not to confront these people.

David_Evans

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Is it?

Depends where you live.

When you have teenagers dealing drugs outside the local shops at 3.30pm not so easy.

And then when a teenager is stabbed.......

And no not an inner city but a small town that never had the problem before.

We have loads of drug dealers, street prostitutes, alcoholics and Spice zombies in my town.
I walk past them every day.
But they don't bother me. They don't speak to me and I don't know them.
They live their lives and I live mine.

Same for most people.

David_Evans

cogito wrote: »

Have you ever traveled through Herzegovina? It's a hopeless mess and always will be. You have a toxic mix of Serbs, Bosnians and Croats, Muslims and Christians. Pass from Croatia into Bosnia and you immediately step into a different world as you leave the old Hapsburg Empire and go into the Ottoman world. The possibility of integration is zero.

I've only been to Kosovo. Collecting weapons from the KLA* / Albanians etc.
What I know is based on speaking to (mainly German) NGO workers and Brits who served in Bosnia. Plus older people who holidayed (and some who lived) in Yugoslavia.

*one of whom I bumped into on the tube in London years later.

Herzlos

The vast majority of the petty/violent criminals up here are British. Closing off borders will just keep them in.

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Coming to a town near you soon...........

You will understand then,

Just think what we could have done to deal with problems like trafficking if he hasn't spent so much time and money on Brexit.

mayonnaise

Backbiter wrote: »

Here's a Brexiter with regrets. Didn't really think things through:
https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1093966760628404224

"So Dave, what's the biggest thing you learnt?"

"Well, the freedom of movement in Europe you know...for proper Europeans."

"You want to keep your own freedom of movement?"

"Hmmm..."

Dave, the proper European. :rotfl:

Arklight

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Only we are not fighting it.

The police have been informed numerous times about the drug dealing going on and done nothing about it.

One of the problems we face is increased crime in our area due to a lack of police presence in our town, we are seen as an easy touch now.

We have people just walking into shops and walking out with things. I was witness to this not long ago. Staff have been told not to confront these people.

Well stop voting Tory then.

Police cuts. Cuts to education. Cuts to youth services. Cuts to family support services. Funding for homelessness obliterated. Funding for housing cut. Funding for rehabilitation of prisoners slashed.

Most of what you describe is just English people getting exactly what England keeps voting for every time there is a general election.

But, no, it's Europe's fault.

David_Evans

Herzlos wrote: »

The vast majority of the petty/violent criminals up here are British. Closing off borders will just keep them in.



Just think what we could have done to deal with problems like trafficking if he hasn't spent so much time and money on Brexit.

Generally, things like people trafficking don't really affect the British public. Except when the police start getting involved and people like BTL landlords or small business owners get dragged in (and usually blamed for being complicit / complacent etc).

But usually, your average car wash customer is safe from any problems.
For now.