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If there is a second referendum ...
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The party I choose to vote for or my opinion on Brexit is based entirely on my vision of what I think is best for the country as a whole.
Neither are working for many people though. The Brexit vote is in part a reflection of a huge dissatisfaction with the direction of travel. Many have not benefitted from the past two decades of economic policy and the advent of globalisation. In the UK we are now very Americanised. All about today, no thought for tomorrow.0 -
You've also said that you're an Unionist who would consider voting for Scottish Independence Hamish !
Methinks, you're just a player, like most of us.
When people say Brexit will be bad for 'us', the 'us' they are thinking of is their own personal lot.
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Personally, Brexit has been great so far. The fall in the £ has done wonders for my Globally diversified stock portfolio
Don't think it has or will do anything for the poor people of Stoke or indeed Sunderland 
'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »...
But if forced to choose just one Union, I'll take the Worlds largest and most successful single market, the EU, rather than an increasingly isolated and irrelevant Brexit Britain.
It's been successful so far, but I think it will be overtaken in the coming decades.
I'd rather fashion a future with India and China. These will continue to grow (with a few hiccups) whilst parts of Europe stagnate.
We can get cheaper resource from these places, and Chinese students are amongst the most successful, both here and in the USA.
I don't see how Italy resolves it's debt issues with the current weird political alliance going on there. The EU/Eurozone is far from perfect.0 -
Personally, Brexit has been great so far. The fall in the £ has done wonders for my Globally diversified stock portfolio Don't think it has or will do anything for the poor people of Stoke or indeed Sunderland
So, you're a globalist when it comes to money, but you don't like my notion of importing cheap labour from all over the globe?
How do you square this?0 -
you don't like my notion of importing cheap labour from all over the globe?
I still think you should stick that on the side of a bus and see how many votes you get.;)“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Who was fooled by that pro-remain PR stunt? Come on, hands up!
Oh dear...
It also seems Theresa May has jumped in her time machine and gone back in time a few years to pull another 'pro-remain PR stunt' and arrange for the EU parliament to buy all it's coffee mugs from Steelite, in Stoke on Trent.
Crikey...
It's a good thing the EU is supposedly not supporting jobs and businesses in Stoke otherwise what would the Brexiteers have to complain about today? :rotfl:“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Thrugelmir wrote: »Neither are working for many people though. The Brexit vote is in part a reflection of a huge dissatisfaction with the direction of travel. Many have not benefitted from the past two decades of economic policy and the advent of globalisation. In the UK we are now very Americanised. All about today, no thought for tomorrow.
Agree, but we in the UK are naturally much more globalised and Americanised than the rest of Europe. The idea that we’re going to go our own way and somehow move in the other direction seems unlikely to say the least!0 -
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No, and May's trip there was a 'strategic' one.I wonder how many of us on here have lived in the Stoke region.
I have. It's not really an area to hold up as a bastion of success.
I did live near and regularly shop in Stoke and it's environs.
What's unbelievable about the inability to regenerate itself in the post-manufacturing globalised age is that it's brilliantly located halfway between Manchester and Birmingham with a nearby M6 connection and direct trains to London and all other parts.
So the UK allowed the EU to decide the regional support and regeneration budget allocated to Stoke (UK taxpayer > EU > picked British regions/industries) I guess. That needs to be laid back at Parliament's door and the UK regional policies will need a big revisit.0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »I still think you should stick that on the side of a bus and see how many votes you get.;)
Are you saying it is as unpopular as your pseudo pro-Scottish-independence / pro-Unionist stance ? 0
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