Employer accusing workers of abusing companies sick pay

Farmer_Johnson

holow666 wrote: »

So can i at least know clearly what exactly is my side of the deal, i dont think its to much i'm asking? Do I?

Then ask your manager.

You have written above about going off sick in a way that makes me suspect it was more than a day or two, contrary to what you wrote earlier. Can you clarify please, have you genuinely only had two or three ways off for sickness in the last twelve months?

Farmer_Johnson

holow666 wrote: »

1, was ankle sprain, i felt pain when i was stepping on it 5 days
2, flue 7 days

You wrote earlier it was two or three days. I’m out, sorry, if you can’t even be honest when asking for advice then god knows what rubbish you come up with at work.

holow666

Farmer_Johnson wrote: »

You wrote earlier it was two or three days. I’m out, sorry, if you can’t even be honest when asking for advice then god knows what rubbish you come up with at work.

have no idea what you mean honest? Do you want companies name and copies of all documents? How detail the information should be? this 2 absences where 5 and 7 days, i had other absences , but they accused me about this absences specifically

holow666

Farmer_Johnson wrote: »

Could you have another run at that please? Maybe read it back before you post, as it’s quite unclear what you are saying.

Have you been abused of faking sickness? Is it only the once, or repeatedly?

Were you sick?

You seem to be complaining that your employer is not being fair, but what do you want done about it?

i never abused sickness and never made a fake. i was sick.
i asked why you ignoring my appeals, why ignoring my grievance, they just said they sorry they had some management issues.
missed that post, i never faked the sickness, cause any sickness brings negative consequences, you won't be paid for 3 days or never as in my case, you will be closer to dismissal and so on. I am very responsible person, and only one thing can be missing that is what level of sickness my employer keeps as a reasonable to be sick.

holow666

So i found some information that allegations need to have evidence, and in my case employer accused me abusing sick pay by avoiding to go on poor absence policy because the gap between this occasions is 10 days longer then it should be. How i can give any explanation or mitigation to clear it if i have no idea why they think i could not be ill on this date. This is not evidence its bulxshit. Maybe they will accuse me that they reasonable believe that i am avoiding to be theft because i know i will be dismissed, or i abusing drug and alcohol policy by avoiding to be drunk at work?

gomer

It sounds like they are simply saying they think your attendance is poor and they want to address it.

BoGoF

holow666 wrote: »

So i found some information that allegations need to have evidence, and in my case employer accused me abusing sick pay by avoiding to go on poor absence policy because the gap between this occasions is 10 days longer then it should be. How i can give any explanation or mitigation to clear it if i have no idea why they think i could not be ill on this date. This is not evidence its bulxshit. Maybe they will accuse me that they reasonable believe that i am avoiding to be theft because i know i will be dismissed, or i abusing drug and alcohol policy by avoiding to be drunk at work?

To be honest I think you need to stop reading stuff as you are clearly not interpreting it correctly.

What you need to realise is that even if your absences are genuine you can still be sacked.

74jax

You say you were sick for 4 days. 3 days on a rota day (due at work) and 1 day on a rest day. This is 4 days sick and covered by a self certificate.
You only need a sick note over 7 days.

As you had several rest days afterwards, are you saying when you were then well you did not call work to book off the sick. So work think you were sick for ten days. When it was 4?

I asked this on your other thread but you haven't replied. We don't know if your work think it was 4 days sick or 10 days sick.

74jax

holow666 wrote: »

. Maybe they will accuse me that they reasonable believe that i am avoiding to be theft because i know i will be dismissed, or i abusing drug and alcohol policy by avoiding to be drunk at work?

If someone is repeatedly off work due to taking drugs then yes I expect they would eventually be sacked.

If someone is repeatedly off work due to being hungover then yes I expect they would eventually be sacked.

If someone is repeatedly off work due to being ill generally then yes I expect they would eventually be sacked.

They are all the same. They employ you to work.

holow666

74jax wrote: »

You say you were sick for 4 days. 3 days on a rota day (due at work) and 1 day on a rest day. This is 4 days sick and covered by a self certificate.
You only need a sick note over 7 days.

As you had several rest days afterwards, are you saying when you were then well you did not call work to book off the sick. So work think you were sick for ten days. When it was 4?

I asked this on your other thread but you haven't replied. We don't know if your work think it was 4 days sick or 10 days sick.

this is other absence which happen after. it has nothing to do with that abuse. probably i will get disciplinary for this soon