The Prepping Thread - A Newer Beginning ;)

euronorris

Her name was Sally Anne Bowman, not Danielle. Sorry about that.

greenbee

Having done a lot of solo business travel over the years (until last March, obviously) I’d also say that social media has its uses. If travelling alone I would provide regular updates as to my location on social media so that plenty of people knew where I was, not just the people who were booking my travel arrangement and meetings. I also shared my itinerary with family, including taxi bookings. I used Uber when overseas, primarily because of the ‘share my journey’ option that allowed friends/colleagues to track my progress. It was my boss who insisted on this when I was travelling without him, although his successor didn’t seem to appreciate it! I always refused my colleagues’ suggestions of their favourite local cab firm for this reason - and with clients I always just said it was a policy/expenses thing.

MingVase

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All this fuss about women being murdered is good, we should be aware of it - but I don't like it when some say its not upto us/we should be able to go wherever we like/ it's up to the police to stop it.  Its our lives, we were born with some commonsense, and we have to be careful and smart. Always been the same and always will be - because no amount of educating our sons etc will weed out the men who just like threatening or hurting women.

Si_Clist

MingVase said:

 but I don't like it when some say its not upto us/we should be able to go wherever we like/ it's up to the police to stop it.

Why is there no "round of applause" emoji on this site?  We need one for that post.

All I'm saying as a mere bloke who definitely hasn't led a sheltered life is that until I retired, most weekends found me driving round London and its environs late at night. The number of young women out on the streets who were either obviously drunk or so preoccupied with their phones that they had no awareness whatsoever of what was happening around them beggared belief.

-taff

And I will disagree with you Ming in part. Yes, it's up to us to be aware of situations but that doesn't mean we should be the ones who are blamed when something happens. A local girl here, got in a taxi, was murdered. A girl in London, got in a car with a police officer, was murdered. Some women walked in a park, were murdered. These are not rhe situations you can plan for. And as someone who has been physically intimidated in a sexual manner by a police officer then quite frankly something is seriously broken with our society that we make it our fault, i.e. it's a womans fault because of whatever reason, she was drunk, she wore clothes, she was female......It is wrong.

euronorris

-taff said:

And I will disagree with you Ming in part. Yes, it's up to us to be aware of situations but that doesn't mean we should be the ones who are blamed when something happens. A local girl here, got in a taxi, was murdered. A girl in London, got in a car with a police officer, was murdered. Some women walked in a park, were murdered. These are not rhe situations you can plan for. And as someone who has been physically intimidated in a sexual manner by a police officer then quite frankly something is seriously broken with our society that we make it our fault, i.e. it's a womans fault because of whatever reason, she was drunk, she wore clothes, she was female......It is wrong.

I whole heartedly agree with you -taff! If anyone has ever seen the art piece showing the outfits of various rape victims, it really hits home that clothing has absolutely f all to do it. We are not the ones doing these things to ourselves, so we can't stop it.

MingVase

We can't stop it, but if we try our hardest to avoid it then that helps. Whether it's right or wrong, it happens and always has, so we need to do what we can. But I never said I blamed the girl in any way.

-taff

I understand that. I think having grown up since the eighties I know my way of thinking has changed. I don't want to take responsibility for someone else's anger, rage, violence and I'm fed up of thinking ahead of things I should be doing to avoid coming into contact with men who can't behanve in a resonable manner, as if men can't be held responsible for their actions, like it's somehow a bioligical imperative to act like an @rse. There was one point where the media [they actually still do] would label a victim of murder as 'innocent' . I very much doubt any victim of murder is NOT innocent, in the sense that who exactly has done something bad enough to deserve to be killed? Like the prostitutes killed by the Ripper, as if they'd chosen a life where that kind of result was a foregone conclusion, that they were not innocent. I could keep writing but what it boils down to is education. Teach males they don't have the right to expect attention, to expect to get what they want, to be violent. This si not the society we live in now. We don't live in fight or flight times, or at least not in the UK we don't. Put the onus back where it should alwys have been, on the men to not do this kind of thing, not the women who have to take repsonsibility for men being 'unable' to control themselves.

MingVase

But you're always going to get the odd one who is just bad, like those women who murder their children. We need to be aware  and pay attention taff.

-taff

Yes, there will always be someone who just goes off their head and starts thinking that murdering someone is fine and a good idea. Just imagine, turn the tables a second, do men ever worry about what they're wearing that it might be provocative? Do you see them walking round clutching their keys at night? Do you see them scurrying down well lit streets if a woman starts following them? [and yes, I well aware of male on male violnce, that is not the issue here in case anyone wants to add that one to the mix]