The Prepping Thread - A Newer Beginning ;)

DigForVictory

Choking with laughter here & thanking heaven I don't keep pigs. (You may need to follow the link for that to make any sense.)

jk0

The rental flat gremlins got me again today.

I was a bit flustered as there was nowhere to park due to a window cleaner's truck in the way. I eventually parked in one of my tenant's neighbour's spaces, but forgot to wind up the window.

You guessed it, it poured down, and I had to drive home sitting on a floor mat. I have put an oil filled radiator in the car for the night.

ivyleaf

Oh poor old jk0!  I hope to goodness things improve for you tomorrow! 

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Hopeful news on the news yesterday as it appears that the 'superspreader' of the coronavirus who went skiing and infected people  there and infected people in a doctors surgery here too has recovered from it already.  Although it's a daunting prospect it perhaps isn't quite as destructive as it first seems?

euronorris

I saw that Mrs LW, but am a bit perplexed by it. One because he was only diagnosed about 2 days previous to his statement of full recovery, and two because he remains in quarantine. I wonder if he is to be considered a carrier, rather than infected himself?

Worryingly, a couple of the people he passed it onto are healthcare workers. One a GP, who had been seeing patients and even visited a care home, and the other a doctor at A&E. I believe they had also been on duty. Hopefully they can track down everyone and get them into isolation quickly enough, but 2 GP surgeries and a pharmacist have been shut as a consequence for a deep clean, the nursing home is closed to all visitors etc, so the knock on effect we previously talked about is already happening.

Bit close to home for me too, as my parents live in Eastbourne. They frequently visit Brighton. Thankfully they haven't been in a few weeks, but there are connections between the people in Brighton and Eastbourne as some Eastbourne school teachers have been asked to self isolate as a precaution.

C_J

More cruise ship drama:

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/coronavirus-cruise-ship-rejected-by-five-ports-runs-out-of-options

2300 people being scooted around in international waters as nobody is willing to let them dock. Food and medicine running out.

jk0

MrsLurcherwalker said:

Hopeful news on the news yesterday as it appears that the 'superspreader' of the coronavirus who went skiing and infected people  there and infected people in a doctors surgery here too has recovered from it already.  Although it's a daunting prospect it perhaps isn't quite as destructive as it first seems?

Reading that reminded me of the story of 'Typhoid Mary'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon

DigForVictory

MERS has a 33~% death rate, SARS an 11~% rate & this currently has a up to 2% if you get pneumonia as well.  No virus is pleasant, but as nasty bugs go, this isn't as bad as some others. 

baggins11

Quite right DFV and people shouldn't worry unnecessarily but I just hope people take it seriously and try not to spread it.  It is all about trying not to spread it to the vulnerable.   

It said in the news yesterday that it could hit 60% of the population.  I think it said flu usually hits 11% so it might become much wider spread than regular flu.  So if I understand the figures correctly 2% of 60% uk population is a lot of peoples loved ones.  But I don't want to sound doom and gloom as it's not at that stage yet - they still say they can potentially contain it.

euronorris

DigForVictory said:

MERS has a 33~% death rate, SARS an 11~% rate & this currently has a up to 2% if you get pneumonia as well.  No virus is pleasant, but as nasty bugs go, this isn't as bad as some others. 

It's not 2% IF you get pneumonia as well. It's an estimated 2% of all confirmed cases. But even that isn't accurate, as it is using the number of deaths vs the total number of infections. But most of those infections haven't run their course yet (ie, either recover or pass away). Early analysis of sample sets of cases where the outcome is known, shows a mortality rate closer to 10%. BUT, again, that is not accurate as it is 1) such a small sample set 2) the outcome of so many cases are unknown still as they are still active and 3) there is the potential that many more people are infected, but so mildly that they haven't sought medical attention or a confirmation. Either way, regular flu mortality rate is circa 0.13% pa, so 2% is a significant increase on that.

Still a lot of unknowns and variables. Follow best practice with regards to hygeine, and carry on carrying on