The fate of May?

movilogo

Every PM would be afraid of a genuine no deal.

Should not be. A PM's reponsibility is to make plan for No Deal. It can't be that bad as Project Fear 2.0 tries to paint

as leader he tries to please everyone.

and ending up in pleasing no one...

Thrugelmir

andrewf75 wrote: »

If I was Scottish I'd want independence for sure.

Many in the UK would have little objection. Given the financial drain.

zarf2007

andrewf75 wrote: »

TM seems to have whole heartedly embraced Leave. Can't see how belief in it makes any difference. The EU's position is crystal clear. There is nothing else they can give. And it isn't a game of poker. Everyone can see that we have a poor hand.

Every PM would be afraid of a genuine no deal. The only reason they aren't afraid now is because they're not in the position of taking responsibility for it! You only have to look at Corbyn to see how being leader changes things. He was a backbench rabble rouser opposed to everything, now as leader he tries to please everyone.

oh I'm sure the EU would suddenly take note if we said we were leaving without a deal and not paying them the £39bn they were expecting.....but I doubt anyone has the balls to do that.

smipsy

zarf2007 wrote: »

oh I'm sure the EU would suddenly take note if we said we were leaving without a deal and not paying them the £39bn they were expecting.....but I doubt anyone has the balls to do that.

no one will do it because it's an economic suicide, showing all the other countries in the world "don't do business with us, we'll screw you if it suits us"

zarf2007

Mr_Costcutter wrote: »

Even if the EU wished to listen to them - they do not have a plan.

they have, Canada+ and if you look at the Canadian deal, apart from the financial services part which needs to be added, it would be perfect. Also a modified Swiss deal would work.

zarf2007

smipsy wrote: »

no one will do it because it's an economic suicide, showing all the other countries in the world "don't do business with us, we'll screw you if it suits us"

actually, you then just set corporation tax to 10%, become a tax haven and tell the rest of the eu to F off!

andrewf75

zarf2007 wrote: »

oh I'm sure the EU would suddenly take note if we said we were leaving without a deal and not paying them the £39bn they were expecting.....but I doubt anyone has the balls to do that.

no-one would have the balls because that's obviously utter stupidity! Even if you want a hard exit, not at least paying up what we owe is just damaging in every way to any future relationship and to our credibility as a nation.

They don't seem up for playing games to me. They want to move on.

zarf2007

andrewf75 wrote: »

no-one would have the balls because that's obviously utter stupidity! Even if you want a hard exit, not at least paying up what we owe is just damaging in every way to any future relationship and to our credibility as a nation.

They don't seem up for playing games to me. They want to move on.

but do we actually owe that? because legally we don't owe anything. Do you think anyone would give a toss if trump did the same? no because they would still need to trade with the US. The same applies to us.

The problem here is spineless remainers who cannot accept a democratic vote that they LOST, undermining the very country they live in by bowing down to those corrupt idiots in the EU.

scaredofdebt

She'll win the vote the question is by how much. I expect around 90 MPs to vote against her, if it's much higher she might resign.

Mr_Costcutter

zarf2007 wrote: »

they have, Canada+ and if you look at the Canadian deal, apart from the financial services part which needs to be added, it would be perfect. Also a modified Swiss deal would work.

It wouldn't have Parliament's vote .....