Caught Speeding 49 in a 30.

boliston

Johno100 wrote: »

Sorry but how is reducing the limit from 40 to 30 going to make a blind bit of difference to a nutter doing 70 or 80?

Most people think nothing of doing about 10mph over the limit so it makes sense for urban areas to be 20mph on the basis that people will probably drive about 30mph, whereas a 30mph limit will usually see people mainly driving about 40mph

System

Uxb wrote: »

There are houses along it and trying to get out of some driveways with bad visibility with the nutjobs going past at 50 plus was hair raising.
There was one crash on the road where the police estimate the actual speed was 70 to 80.
Reducing it to 30 will mean that people might actually now do no more than 40!

So the entire reason for the limit being reduced is not because we the locals want 30 but because a significant minority simply will not obey the set limit.

An alternative viewpoint is you want the limit reduced because the people who live on that road don't park the right way round on their drives and drive in forwards instead of reversing in so end up backing out onto the road instead of driving onto it and they're of quite a poor driving standard so struggle to safely join a road.

theone999

Car_54 wrote: »

Are you aware that encouraging someone to commit a crime is itself a crime?

MSE forums seems to attract the most moralising bunch of miserable protestants online.

that lad gave sound advice. don't knock it.

Car_54

theone999 wrote: »

MSE forums seems to attract the most moralising bunch of miserable protestants online.

that lad gave sound advice. don't knock it.

Do you know what “moralising” actually means?

I was not making any judgement on the previous poster’s suggestion, but simply pointing out the law, which is a fact and not an opinion.

Mercdriver

Johno100 wrote: »

Another fallacy. Firstly virtually all vehicles are quieter and less polluting than they were a decade ago, so by your logic that should lead to higher limits not lower ones. Secondly if you set up a pollution and noise monitoring station next to the road and I drove past at 30mph and then 60mph I can guarantee the total amount of noise and pollution picked up by your equipment at 30mph would be higher than that at 60mph for the simple reason I'd be in your vicinity for less time.

Speed limits set on the elevated section of the M4 around Port Talbot are set at 50 purely for noise reasons. It doesn't matter that cars are quieter now (apart from boy racers with daft exhausts). Also, the 50mph speed limit has been extended back/forward to J42 by the Welsh Assembly. The reason they have given is to reduce emissions.

The fact that most people slow to 20 for the average speed cameras on the elevated section which increases emissions is neither here nor there.

Deastons

boliston wrote: »

Most people think nothing of doing about 10mph over the limit

If self-driving cars eventually materialise, I wonder how people will feel about always sticking to the limit, not flooring it off the lights, stopping on amber, not hogging the middle lane etc etc.

Kiran

Mercdriver wrote: »

Speed limits set on the elevated section of the M4 around Port Talbot are set at 50 purely for noise reasons. It doesn't matter that cars are quieter now (apart from boy racers with daft exhausts). Also, the 50mph speed limit has been extended back/forward to J42 by the Welsh Assembly. The reason they have given is to reduce emissions.

The fact that most people slow to 20 for the average speed cameras on the elevated section which increases emissions is neither here nor there.

The elevated section through Port Talbot is partially set to 50 for noise, but the other reason is that there are short on ramps with no hard shoulder at the end so it has been risk assessed that a speed of 70mph is too high. I was doing some training with the police riders a couple of months back and apparently there is now a plan in place to shut the Port Talbot M4 junction although I'm not sure how this will work given the complaints last time this was tried.


The extension of the 50mp past junction 42 on the grounds of emissions is a joke given that the motorway is next to South Wales biggest source of air pollution (TATA steel) but the sad thing is people will just accept it and it will remain even though it was only supposed to be a trial

Norman_Castle

Tarambor wrote: »

An alternative viewpoint is you want the limit reduced because the people who live on that road don't park the right way round on their drives and drive in forwards instead of reversing in so end up backing out onto the road instead of driving onto it and they're of quite a poor driving standard so struggle to safely join a road.

Ignoring the poor driving standard of the speeding drivers who fail to recognise or just ignore the restricted view and drive at an appropriate speed.

Norman_Castle

Johno100 wrote: »

Sorry but how is reducing the limit from 40 to 30 going to make a blind bit of difference to a nutter doing 70 or 80?

It possibly wont to individual tools who choose to drive excessively fast but its likely to slow the average speeders who will be causing the majority of the problems.
Did you really need this explaining to you?

Norman_Castle

Deastons wrote: »

If self-driving cars eventually materialise, I wonder how people will feel about always sticking to the limit, not flooring it off the lights, stopping on amber, not hogging the middle lane etc etc.

Some will sulk about being forced to follow the rules because they know best, others will be confused about the funny yellow light making their car stop and driving in the "slow" lane and return the cars because they must be faulty.
Looking forward to youtube videos of lazy idiots shouting at their car "I'm not walking 30 feet, just park on the pavement".