Smoking in garden

Smodlet

spadoosh wrote: »

I appreciate what youre saying. I honestly dont care what peoples opinions are about me smoking. Ive not tried to once suggest that it is considerate.

What ive tried to point out all along that by dictating how someone lives on their own land you are being inconsiderate. This goes completely over your head whilst your too busy jumping on anyone you think is inconsiderate. A considerate person is someone who is careful not to inconvenience or harm others. If someone told me to move where i stand in my garden id consider it an inconvenience and this incosiderate.

Your trying to put yourself on a soap box without realising youre doing the very thing that encourages you to stand on said soap box.

Also notice how your a lot more easly dismissive of stuff that effects you, ie the driving. I mean we really could do something about that, it would result in 80,000 lives not been taken early every year due to pollution. But, and its a big one, its too much inconvenience. Inconveniencing others though, for your benefit, thats ok? So its ok for one person to be inconsiderate based on your perception but not another? Its pretty broken logic that.

Who are you to tell me what I am doing and what to notice? Good grief. If your smoke is polluting someone else's air space when moving a few feet would diminish its effects, you are being inconsiderate. To then go on to say you don't want the smell in your own house but are fine with it being in someone else's makes you ignorant, imho. To then say you won't stand on the grass lest your feet get wet and you are too lazy to put shoes on makes you utterly selfish.

FYI, I don't drive...

rosyw

Smodlet wrote: »

Who are you to tell me what I am doing and what to notice? Good grief. If your smoke is polluting someone else's air space when moving a few feet would diminish its effects, you are being inconsiderate. To then go on to say you don't want the smell in your own house but are fine with it being in someone else's makes you ignorant, imho. To then say you won't stand on the grass lest you feet get wet and you are too lazy to put shoes on makes you utterly selfish.

FYI, I don't drive...

Good grief!! What you are saying then is that OP is inconsiderate, ignorant and lazy! Seems to me that you are incredibly intolerant and I'm extremely glad not to have you, or anyone like you, as a neighbour.
IMHO if anyone wants smoke in their own garden, that's fine, whether it's 1 or 2 a night or if they chain smoke their way through a pack of 20! For ALL of us, about the only place we can do as we please is our own home and to have someone else telling us we can't is just plain wrong. OP's neighbour wasn't asking them to move further away, they were asking them to simply not smoke, IN THEIR OWN GARDEN. The neighbour is the one being unreasonable, maybe they should have politely asked OP if they would mind moving a bit further down the garden as a bit of smoke was drifting in, and the problem could have been solved, in OP's position I'd be settling myself into a comfy patio chair, in front of a patio heater and smoking to my hearts content

Marvel1

Smodlet wrote: »

Who are you to tell me what I am doing and what to notice? Good grief. If your smoke is polluting someone else's air space when moving a few feet would diminish its effects, you are being inconsiderate. To then go on to say you don't want the smell in your own house but are fine with it being in someone else's makes you ignorant, imho. To then say you won't stand on the grass lest you feet get wet and you are too lazy to put shoes on makes you utterly selfish.

FYI, I don't drive...

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Kim_kim

I’m an ex smoker, I’m a real nazi, I hate it.
But I wouldn’t dream of telling any neighbour they shouldn’t smoke in their garden.

Tootling

Gee.

I personally would also be !!!!ed if someone regularly smoked so that it came into my bedroom meaning i could never keep my bedroom window open just in case.

Maybe the woman has just phrases herself badly, or spoken out of frustration? It happens.

Why can't both sides find a compromise rather than !!!!!ing that each other is being inconsiderate. Perhaps both are being inconsiderate. The OP perhaps more so frankly because it is their choice they are smoking and so they're choice they stand where they stand.

Buy some Crocs and smoke at the end of the garden or just so that you are far enough away so the smoke doesn't travel. Or plant a tree that might shield you. Put some stepping stones down. Smoke in the front garden.

If my neighbour was smoking disgustingly outside my window i might ask them to move. But i wouldn't ask them to stop smoking in their garden.

Considerate people compromise. It doesn't matter if she phrased herself badly or wrongly.

Would you smoke in a bus shelter without checking with others if it is ok? This probably does not apply now as it is obviously not allowed. However I do get annoyed at smokers who show no consideration to those around them and this has happened in the past.

You smoke, your choice.

Driving a car not always a choice of you need to get to work and can't rely on public transport due to it being crap or over priced. So that really is a pretty crappy comparison.

Bbqs... Don't actually smell bad although it is considerate to warn neighbours especially if you see their windows open or washing out.

I suppose another compromise would be to not smoke if you see the window is open. Or you could warn her each time you go out for a puff, but moving up the lawn might in the end be the easiest option.

sitesafe

Smodlet wrote: »

Who are you to tell me what I am doing and what to notice? Good grief. If your smoke is polluting someone else's air space when moving a few feet would diminish its effects, you are being inconsiderate. To then go on to say you don't want the smell in your own house but are fine with it being in someone else's makes you ignorant, imho. To then say you won't stand on the grass lest you feet get wet and you are too lazy to put shoes on makes you utterly selfish.

FYI, I don't drive...

I agree - it's amazing how people are unwilling to help each other out and compromise - you never know they might need to ask the neighbour for a favour themselves one day.

FreeBear

Bass_9 wrote: »

Good grief when will this thread end?!!! =|

Once it has gone up in smoke and the butt stubbed out at the bottom of the garden.

Then again, a mod may well come along and throw a bucket of water over us to quench any smoldering remains.

DaftyDuck

Look, I'm fed up! Every time I come on this Forum to see what new threads there are, this one pops its polluting title up right next door, just above or just below what I want to read, and my clumsy finger opens it up accidently; I'm left with no choice but to read the latest! Grrr! Inconsiderate posters!!!!

Now, it, and all its unpleasantness would drift to the bottom of th page and harmlessly onward if we were all thoughtful and considerate, and just stopped posti ......

Oh. Sorry..... I'll just move on to the next thread. Apologies. Didn't mean to....

Maxson

Kim_kim wrote: »

I’m an ex smoker, I’m a real nazi, I hate it.
But I wouldn’t dream of telling any neighbour they shouldn’t smoke in their garden.

Same here!

RedFraggle

I'm a smoker. We are now lepers. I am also considerate. In our old house our main outside seating area was deliberately placed at the bottom of the garden because our neighbours were at the top. I would have the odd one at the top, but not if they were sat out eating. In our current house the main seating is near the house. I sometimes smoke there. There is a big hedge and I smoke roll ups which kick out less smoke than tailor made fags.
I wouldn't stop smoking outside if the neighbour mentioned it. We mostly smoke indoors in our smoking chairs at the patio doors.
I wouldn't like it if smoke drifted into my bedroom window. It annoys me in hotels. I don't want my bedroom smelling of cigarettes. I shut the window.