any housewives out there?

fibonarchie

Teacher2 wrote: »

I worked full time as a teacher for 34 years in all and paid for childcare and other help with such things as cleaning, ironing and window cleaning.

This is the point, I think.

When these jobs are done by somebody else it's a paid job. When they are done by the homemaker she's "sitting on her bum being lazy".

Makes no sense at all..

JWM wrote: »

As opposed to you who know all but say nothing then?

5 emojis aren't a substitute for a convincing argument you know.

I didn't see your post, but sometimes people are so stupid or ignorant the most appropriate response is indeed to fall about laughing..

pickledonionspaceraider

Or they don't manage to do it because they are exhausted having been out of the house for 12 hours

fibonarchie

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

Or they don't manage to do it because they are exhausted having been out of the house for 12 hours

Absolutely. One of my relatives works a 12 hour shift in A&E. I'm sure the last thing she wants to do when she gets in is start mopping the floor!

FBaby

Well I'm slim thank you. Only logging on now because I went for a run after work!

In any case, isn't a married housewife paid by her working husband?

Hoveactually

I have recently given up work to look after my 4 year old. It is not a case of how many hours you have to yourself in a day.Summer holidays are 6 weeks, half terms are 1-2 weeks add Christmas, Easter, sickness and the list goes on. If you are working, then you are not covering these periods with your children, no matter how efficient you are or how hard working. Arranging for someone else to look after your children is management not mothering. Mothering is hands on, 24-7 and a privilege.

Red-Squirrel_2

Hoveactually wrote: »

Mothering is hands on, 24-7 and a privilege.

What about dads? They don't seem to have to put up with all this scrutiny of their decisions!

Happier_Me

Hoveactually wrote: »

I have recently given up work to look after my 4 year old. It is not a case of how many hours you have to yourself in a day.Summer holidays are 6 weeks, half terms are 1-2 weeks add Christmas, Easter, sickness and the list goes on. If you are working, then you are not covering these periods with your children, no matter how efficient you are or how hard working. Arranging for someone else to look after your children is management not mothering. Mothering is hands on, 24-7 and a privilege.

Maybe some parents put their children into paid for childcare but, for many, school holidays just mean more juggling of home and work. Hubby and I get 12 week's holiday between us, we have one of those weeks together and the rest is used to cover school holidays. With a bit of help from grandparents, we've avoided paid for help for 14 years. IMO it's easier for one parent to stay home and take responsibility for all school holidays but, I stress, not just for the SAHP but the working parent too.

FBaby

Hoveactually, do you think that the majority of working parents continue to put their kids in childcare during holidays whilst they enjoy full days doing nothing?

Most working parents actually look forward to spending time with their kids during holidays and enjoy each day they get. They don't look forward to their kids going back to school so that they can get a break.

peachyprice

fibonarchie wrote: »

Yes, but is that sustainable? Effectively doing 2 jobs. Is that what the feminist movement wanted for women?

Well it must be sustainable, that's how the majority of families operate.

Tabbytabitha

ska_lover wrote: »

Some pple just post random stuff because they are bored. This appears to be one of those threads..and is always obvious when a person demands 'discuss' but doesn't give a POV until further down the thread..because they haven't yet picked a team

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This thread is boring AF (not aimed at anyone in particular) Its just a bunch of posters being drawn into an argument by a person who is playing puppet master

For some pple on MSE - online ''drama'' is likely the highlight of their day

I don't know why people cannot live and let live. If a person wants to be a housewife or a business woman, it is no skin of anyone else's nose other than jealousy thinking grass is greener for example and it is not, neither life is perfect or easy etc

other than for humans to assess ourselves/realise our own unhappiness etc, it is easier to negatively judge those that make different choices . It validates our own misery, that we can portray others as worse, in some way, worse women / wives/mothers/workers..therefore a persons own life will look less rubbish

People that need to continually demand to prove that THEIR life choice is somehow above and beyond another persons (a strangers) just displays extreme unhappiness in their own life and lack of confidence in their own choices that they need the validation of an attempt to make someone else feel rubbish for making different choices

I thought it was just a discussion thread about life choices and reasons for them - a bit repetitive , to be sure, but interesting nonetheless.