any housewives out there?

Poor_Single_lady

Fibinarche You can't genuinely believe the things you Have posted. It's just not possible. Enjoy your day tommorow not getting dressed and watching Jeremy Kyle. I am very jealous.

ska_lover

Some pple just post random stuff because they are bored. This appears to be one of those threads..and is always obvious when a person demands 'discuss' but doesn't give a POV until further down the thread..because they haven't yet picked a team

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This thread is boring AF (not aimed at anyone in particular) Its just a bunch of posters being drawn into an argument by a person who is playing puppet master

For some pple on MSE - online ''drama'' is likely the highlight of their day

I don't know why people cannot live and let live. If a person wants to be a housewife or a business woman, it is no skin of anyone else's nose other than jealousy thinking grass is greener for example and it is not, neither life is perfect or easy etc

other than for humans to assess ourselves/realise our own unhappiness etc, it is easier to negatively judge those that make different choices . It validates our own misery, that we can portray others as worse, in some way, worse women / wives/mothers/workers..therefore a persons own life will look less rubbish

People that need to continually demand to prove that THEIR life choice is somehow above and beyond another persons (a strangers) just displays extreme unhappiness in their own life and lack of confidence in their own choices that they need the validation of an attempt to make someone else feel rubbish for making different choices

FBaby

It's not the first time that a thread about SAHP being paid for what others do for a free has been started. The concept that 'someone' should pay someone else for taking care of their family/home is very odd.

Thinking of it, if this was deemed reasonable, despite working FT, thinking of the last week, I would be able to justify 'someone' paying me for:
- one hour counselling session on Saturday as a friend asked to meet up to discuss her decision to divorce.
- Taxi fare to take my OH to work and back as his car was at the garage.
- Financial advice fee for advice given to a colleague who wants to sell her house.
- Travel advice fee for advice given to another colleague who is planning her next years' holiday.

Where does it stop??

onlymeat_27

That's a tricky one really because who would pay us. Governments now do not think being a housewife or a stay-at-home mum important, all that's important to them is to get women out working to get money into the national coffers and spend it like there's no tomorrow under the guise of women being independent and able to follow their 'dreams' of a career, and as you say, feminism has its part to play in this also. All this has done is made women slaves to the clock. Be it to commute, work, fitting in home life, looking after children or older parents, shopping etc, that dreaded word being a 'housewife' and of course the biological clock. I think women have been fed a lie over the last 30 odd years that we can have it all and do it all. We can't and overall I think women are just tired. Young women may laugh at this post but believe me, you get to my age and the penny will drop that the career you had so many high hopes for may well give you so many things but, at the end of the day, you are no more important to the company you work for then the next person who can do you're job. Interesting that since the demise of a traditional housewife and mum things have become so much worse in society. I think overall a women at home is looked down upon as being a non-job and so to get back to you're original point. No-one will pay us because its what we do, and why, because we want to make a home for our loved ones, look after them with our nurses hat on, make them happy and love and cherish them and as long as us mum's at home do that, Governments will look the other way.

Poor_Single_lady

I don't think people do look down on housewives. I didn't, but the concept that you should somehow be paid is a bit silly.
It's like saying everyone should be paid for being alive. Anyway as I said before if you want paying Then that's between housewife and husband.

Happier_Me

I don't get the concept of SAHP's being paid for what they do either. As a working parent I pay for 7 hours childcare a week only, everything else is managed/juggled by us the parents/homeowners. If this argument stacks up then surely I'm also enitled to be paid for the jobs I do in the home too!

Surely it's an adults responsibility to house, feed, clean and clothe themselves and their dependants. It's a lifestyle choice/decision (sometimes decided for a family based on necessity) for a parent to stay home and wjat they're effectively doing us buying time and flexibility, which could be put to good use or not depending on the family.

I don't begrudge SAHP's at all, I know the pressure of juggling of stressful jobs and all that goes with running a family and home so I can really see the benefits of this set up. But in my opinion, having worked all sorts of hours and been at home for two years with babies/toddlers, in my experience it's much easier and less stressful staying at home.

fibonarchie

maman wrote: »

I'm beginning to think that fibonarchie is living up to the name.:D

I tend to do things in sequence....

fibonarchie

ska_lover wrote: »

Some pple just post random stuff because they are bored. This appears to be one of those threads..and is always obvious when a person demands 'discuss' but doesn't give a POV until further down the thread..because they haven't yet picked a team

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This thread is boring AF (not aimed at anyone in particular) Its just a bunch of posters being drawn into an argument by a person who is playing puppet master

I think you may be reading too much into things. I haven't even read most of the thread (busy doing my housework, ha ha ) and the fact that it's now got to several pages long means that people want to put their tuppenceworth in and say something. Everyone's views are valid, and people aren't all going to have the same opinions, otherwise it wouldn't make a discussion.

Have a listen to the radio programme I linked to if you like.

JWM

jackieblack wrote: »

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Oh how little you know...

As opposed to you who know all but say nothing then?

5 emojis aren't a substitute for a convincing argument you know.

Teacher2

I worked full time as a teacher for 34 years in all and paid for childcare and other help with such things as cleaning, ironing and window cleaning.

Now I am retired I am, I suppose, a 'housewife' and do all my chores, errands, gardening, maintenance and decorating myself. I use the running around as my exercise regime so I avoid gym subs and keep fit at the same time.

I actually really enjoy the freedom andalso being in my own, lovely home. Chores can sometimes be onerous but I don't mind things like ironing and I love cooking. Even less desirable tasks like Hoovering or dusting have their reward in the sparkling, spotless finish they produce.

Another reward comes in the knowledge that, while I was giving the taxman a slice of employees' tax out of my own income which was also taxed before I handed it over, I pay no tax on my own labour now.

I reckon I would have to earn at least £6000 a year now if I were paying others to do what I do myself - because of the minimum wage and taxation - before I even started to take a penny for myself.

It's great, therefore, to be a housewife.