Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

BucksLady

phillw wrote: »

I haven't ever seen a polite reply from a leaver. None of them have ever apologised for what they have done.

Why would you expect ''Leavers'' to apologise for what has happened?
I would have thought that Mr C's government should take that prize.

StevieJ

Lungboy wrote: »

It's not clear either way, so for me it's down to intent, and the chap that wrote it always meant for it to be revokeable.

We will soon know.

The U.K. should be allowed to reverse Brexit, according to an advisory opinion from the European Union’s top court that will fuel the campaign to thwart the divorce.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-04/brexit-opponents-boosted-by-opinion-on-article-50-reversal

While Advocate General Manuel Campos Sanchez-Bordona’s opinion is purely advisory, the Luxembourg-based court usually follows such advice. A date for a final rulings hasn’t been set yet but could still come this month, potentially even before the U.K. Parliament’s Dec. 11 vote on May’s Brexit deal.

Mr_Costcutter

BucksLady wrote: »

I would have thought that Mr C's government should take that prize.

There was certainly a failure to spell out ''all the issues''. In particular, I don't recall too many debates focusing on the potential problems with Northern Ireland.

kingstreet

BucksLady wrote: »

What annoys me the most about this whole business, is that many issues (homelessnes, poverty, social care etc) facing this country have been pushed aside - they should not have been and there's now a time bomb waiting to go off.

You think this Government would have done something about them if it wasn't for Brexit? What was the excuse before 2016?

THE_Terry_Urr

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

I don’t disagree with you - I was just countering the stretching yawner’s strange suggestion that if you work for an organisation that is not part of the EU, then you must want to leave the EU.

I saw absolutely no suggestion of that even after rereading. You made it up. What I want to know is WHY you made it up ??????

BucksLady

kingstreet wrote: »

You think this Government would have done something about them if it wasn't for Brexit? What was the excuse before 2016?

No I dont. As for the excuse before 2016 - better ask them.


My point being that the chaos Brexit has imposed upon the UK has allowed attention to be diverted from the many problems which face this country.

kingstreet

BucksLady wrote: »

My point being that the chaos Brexit has imposed upon the UK has allowed attention to be diverted from the many problems which face this country.

I just think it's a convenient excuse for things they have never shown any interest in solving and I voted Conservative until 2015.

phillw

Mr_Costcutter wrote: »

There was certainly a failure to spell out ''all the issues''. In particular, I don't recall too many debates focusing on the potential problems with Northern Ireland.

There wasn't much debate, everything was shot down with "project fear" and "we don't want experts".

Every problem that has come up was mentioned before the referendum.

David Cameron made a pigs ear of it there is no doubt, but I believe he did it from a position of ineptitude. I'm not sure about the logic of keep going down a path that only benefits a very small minority (none of which post here) just because of his inability to compete with the much easier and more seductive leave campaign.

andrewf75

JoaN_Number_one wrote: »

There are no "issues" with Northern Ireland that are not of the EU's making, that's why there was no discussion about Eire/Northern Ireland.

Technically the WTO doesn’t require countries to control their borders, but in practice it becomes necessary if you delve into the detail a bit more. Complete nonsense to suggest the EU has somehow created a problem out of nothing just to be awkward.

Brexit was largely about controlling borders. To then complain that we have to control our only land border and blame others for it just sums up the lack of taking responsibility!

A_Pandiculation

andrewf75 wrote: »

Technically the WTO doesn’t require countries to control their borders, but in practice it becomes necessary if you delve into the detail a bit more. Complete nonsense to suggest the EU has somehow created a problem out of nothing just to be awkward.

Brexit was largely about controlling borders. To then complain that we have to control our only land border and blame others for it just sums up the lack of taking responsibility!

That'll be remainers & the EU you're talking about, "complaining" then.
As said earlier, it was never mentioned pre-referendum so obviously then it wasn't a problem - which by default only leaves the EU & remainers. Eire are doing what the EU say, being the good little members that they are. If the Irish don't like borders they could always leave the EU too.