Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

wunferall

Filo25 wrote: »

Out of interest who said we would have WWIII due to leaving the EU?

Recently Lord Roberts of Llandudno in the HoP, and in 2016 Cameron himself.

Filo25

wunferall wrote: »

Recently Lord Roberts of Llandudno in the HoP, and in 2016 Cameron himself.

Sorry I mean who actually said it rather than was misquopted as having said it, because Cameron certainly didn't use those words in 2016 (not that I'm defending the largeamount of rubbish both sides came out with during hte referendum campaign)

kabayiri

wunferall wrote: »

Your grubby EUrophilia is telling.

It is purely down to the EU that a WTO Brexit is looking increasingly likely, as many predicted from the beginning.
You said it yourself; "they have to negotiate" - NOT "they have to dismiss and ignore".

Yes, if there is no deal it will be because there is no preferable option which suits both parties.

1 Vested Interest here .... 27 Vested Interests over there.

As I said....both parties!

cogito

mayonnaise wrote: »

This must have been mentioned about a dozen times already but I'll give it another go.
The 39bn is NOT a payment to secure any kind of deal. It's to cover liabilities, pensions, future commitments we already signed up for, etc...

Yes, we're well accustomed to your endless repetition. Let me repeat something. Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed. That's about the only thing that both sides have agreed upon.

wunferall

Filo25 wrote: »

Sorry I mean who actually said it rather than was misquopted as having said it, because Cameron certainly didn't use those words in 2016

Hey, don't berate me for media coverage. It is what has been published in mainstream British media.
Look for yourself and berate the source, not the messenger please.

Brexit could lead to World War 3!' Lib Dem Lord .....

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/953519/Brexit-news-Lord-Roberts-Theresa-May-Adolf-Hitler-withdrawal-bill

'Brexit' could trigger World War Three, warns David Cameron

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-could-trigger-world-war-7928607

David Cameron: Brexit could lead to Europe descending into war

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/08/cameron-brexit-will-increase-risk-of-europe-descending-into-war/


While you're questioning what the UK media publishes you might also like to question the assertions which provoked my response and suggest where " we were going to get a sweet deal, they need us more than we need them, easiest deal in history." ?
If you really want to show a balanced approach, that is.

Ballard

wunferall wrote: »

No.
See: https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/countries_e/united_kingdom_e.htm

You're conflating membership and proposals.
The UK is already a member.

As I understand it the U.K. is a WTO member due to our EU membership. Once we’ve left the EU does our memberships the WTO simply continue or do we need to reapply?

Filo25

Yes, to be clear I was after a quote not a newspaper headline and the usual amount of editorialising we get from our press rather than actual news

fatbeetle

mayonnaise wrote: »

I did.
On what basis did you dismiss it as scaremongering?
Do you not agree with the impact of 'no deal' on cross border clinical trials? Or maybe you have a different view on mutual recognition of professional qualifications? Or you don't agree with the BMA on the impact on our participation in the CE mark scheme for medicines and medical devices?
Which one is it?

Cross border clinical trials? Mutual recognition of professional qualifications? etc.

Can you tell me how any of them "could" increase the risk of a Europe-wide pandemic?

Did you not notice that the Indy provides no link to this "briefing paper"?

Here it is, it's not a secret thing shared only with the Indy, that lying rag is using it to sell copy;
file:///C:/Users/user/Downloads/BMA-briefing-the-dangers-of-a-no-deal-Brexit-August-2018.pdf

Now then, tell me again, how does this indicate the UK to be in peril?

Did you not notice that the Indy includes little information from the briefing paper, but a fair bit from another project fear threat from weeks ago?

Did you not notice that the Indy's only inference is that a hard Brexit; "considerable uncertainty about the UK!!!8217;s ability to coordinate pandemic preparedness!!!8221;, a polite way of saying "we don't know what w/could happen"?
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wunferall

Ballard wrote: »

As I understand it the U.K. is a WTO member due to our EU membership. Once we’ve left the EU does our memberships the WTO simply continue or do we need to reapply?

Then you misunderstand, as seems prevalent with so much which is Brexit-related sadly.

It's really not difficult to find this information out but here you go:

The UK is a member of the WTO in its own right, having cofounded the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT), the WTO’s predecessor, with other 22 countries in 1948. It does not have to reapply to join the WTO once it leaves the EU.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/10-things-know-about-world-trade-organization-wto

wunferall

Filo25 wrote: »

Yes, to be clear I was after a quote not a newspaper headline and the usual amount of editorialising we get from our press rather than actual news

The actual quotes are widely available, as are the varied meanings of what was said.

Attempting to deny that Armageddon was threatened if the UK dared to vote for Brexit has been done to death before and is as tired as the assertions of so many who continue to attempt to use old arguments to prove (or disprove) something that hasn't actually happened yet.