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Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

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  • melanzana
    melanzana Posts: 3,953 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker I've been Money Tipped!
    Trump wants to kill WTO stone dead. Just to mention in dispatches.
  • wunferall
    wunferall Posts: 845 Forumite
    Ballard wrote: »
    Regardless of that, it remains fact that several countries have blocked our proposals for splitting the tariff. I don’t think that going the wto route will be nearly as easy as most brexiteers seem to think. Time will tell.

    You're making it up as you go along now, aren't you? ;)

    The official stance is there in black & white as I posted links to.
    Both from our government and from the WTO themselves.
    Now kindly provide evidence of who has officially "blocked" UK proposals please, together with the effects of this.
  • Ballard
    Ballard Posts: 2,983 Forumite
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    wunferall wrote: »
    You're making it up as you go along now, aren't you? ;)

    The official stance is there in black & white as I posted links to.
    Both from our government and from the WTO themselves.
    Now kindly provide evidence of who has officially "blocked" UK proposals please, together with the effects of this.


    Widely reported but probably not in the express so you may have missed it.

    https://www.globalmeatnews.com/Article/2018/07/27/New-Zealand-opposes-EU-and-UK-s-quota-split-proposal

    https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/25/resistance-to-joint-proposal-to-wto-leaves-uk-and-eu-divided-us-australi-reject-brexit-trade-plans

    I agree that my term ‘blocked’ wasn’t appropriate. I should have said something along the lines of it not being as straightforward as we might like.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Ballard wrote: »

    I agree that my term !!!8216;blocked!!!8217; wasn!!!8217;t appropriate. I should have said something along the lines of it not being as straightforward as we might like.

    The UK as usual plays fair while everyone else only has self interest at heart. Quelle Surprise......

    Then people get upset at Trump's antics!
  • Daniel54
    Daniel54 Posts: 837 Forumite
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    The UK as usual plays fair while everyone else only has self interest at heart. Quelle Surprise......

    Then people get upset at Trump's antics!

    It’s not a matter of playing fair or otherwise.

    The issue is how to allocate NZ import quotas when statistics for the split between U.K. and rest of the EU have been volatile,and potentially unreliable.

    It is a matter of negotiation,preferably within an FTA with NZ negotiated over time.
  • Mum_of_1
    Mum_of_1 Posts: 28 Forumite
    Daniel54 wrote: »
    It’s not a matter of playing fair or otherwise.

    The issue is how to allocate NZ import quotas when statistics for the split between U.K. and rest of the EU have been volatile,and potentially unreliable.

    It is a matter of negotiation,preferably within an FTA with NZ negotiated over time.
    Out of interest, were or are those import quotas of which you speak renegotiated every time a new member country joins the EU?
    If not, why then should one member country leaving the EU affect these quotas?
  • wunferall
    wunferall Posts: 845 Forumite
    edited 16 August 2018 at 6:23PM
    Good advice - try following it.

    What's that?
    Ah, says the one saying "We were promised a sweet deal, the EU will cave, BMW workers will strike " etc.
    No "pot" and "kettle" syndrome at all there then.
    :rotfl:
  • wunferall
    wunferall Posts: 845 Forumite
    Ballard wrote: »
    Widely reported but probably not in the express so you may have missed it.

    https://www.globalmeatnews.com/Article/2018/07/27/New-Zealand-opposes-EU-and-UK-s-quota-split-proposal

    https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/25/resistance-to-joint-proposal-to-wto-leaves-uk-and-eu-divided-us-australi-reject-brexit-trade-plans

    I agree that my term ‘blocked’ wasn’t appropriate. I should have said something along the lines of it not being as straightforward as we might like.

    You might find yourself castigated by Filo25 for relying upon the word of media rather than direct from the source, the most reliable surely being the WTO themselves as per the link I already supplied.

    Who is the "we" you refer to in ""as we might like"? Again, the official UK stance has been provided.

    The unnecessary unpleasantness of the 'Express' comment is noted and suggests evidence that sensible debate is something with which this thread still struggles.
    Small wonder the Brexit thread in DT was closed.
    It looks like some are determined to see the same with this thread.
    Again.
    :(
  • Ballard
    Ballard Posts: 2,983 Forumite
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    Oh, I forgot to add that ‘we’ refers to the U.K. I’d have thought that it was blindingly obvious but sorry for not making it clear enough for you. My mistake.
  • Mum_of_1
    Mum_of_1 Posts: 28 Forumite
    Ballard wrote: »
    Oh, I forgot to add that ‘we’ refers to the U.K. I’d have thought that it was blindingly obvious but sorry for not making it clear enough for you. My mistake.
    Sorry to but in but as you've been told, the UK's official position has been given and it isn't what you are trying to suggest.
    So that's another mistake you made.
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