Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

Lungboy

mrginge wrote: »

Sorry matey it stopped being a national issue for labour, Lib Dems, snp and dup a long long time ago.

Because May never made it a truly national issue. She should have formed a cross-party Brexit team, with representatives from the devolved governments, business and other key partys. She made it into a party issue.

A_Pandiculation

Herzlos wrote: »

I stand by my assertion that we need them more than they need us for anything.

Just . . . :rotfl:

buglawton

Northern Ireland minister, the Remainer who quit
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/northern-ireland-minister-shailesh-vara-quits-over-brexit-a3990571.html

From his article in the DT today:
(about the negotiations leading up the the deal)...

They set the agenda and insisted that nothing could be discussed unless we agreed to a financial settlement, which we did agreeing at £39 billion.
Thereafter, the UK continued to make concessions but, significantly, none were given in return by the EU

Looks like the deal was so bad it turned him into a Brexiteer!

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

You're right, I thought they were.
Still, there's presumably nothing stopping the EU joining the Five Eyes or equivalent. They've presumably got security info sharing deals with the other 4 anyway.






Apologies about my lack of encyclopedic knowledge on everything.



I wonder how many of you could name the Five Eyes members before it was used as an argument here...:j

It's a good idea not to make yourself look foolish by pretending to know something that you don’t.

mrginge

Lungboy wrote: »

Because May never made it a truly national issue. She should have formed a cross-party Brexit team, with representatives from the devolved governments, business and other key partys. She made it into a party issue.

We can deal In fantasy if you want, but the reality Is that no prime minister from any party would have done what you suggested.

But you’re wrong anyway because the only way she’s got it to where it is is by promoting it as a national issue.
And that’s the problem.

buglawton

Herzlos wrote: »

...I wonder how many of you could name the Five Eyes members before it was used as an argument here...:j

I guessed 3 correctly but would not have guessed Canada or NZ. Sounds like an ex-colonial anglophile club of little consequence despite the billing in Bond movies. I'd thought it was more genuinely international, eg might have included China in some sort of Interpol sense, but no. Never imagined the EU would be a 5 Eye because despite pretensions, it's not a country.

Thrugelmir

Lungboy wrote: »

Because May never made it a truly national issue. She should have formed a cross-party Brexit team, with representatives from the devolved governments, business and other key partys. She made it into a party issue.

Corbyn in the past week has said to the German press there'll be no renegotiation, that he wouldn't back Jo Johnston's call for a second referendum, however in an interview on Channel 5 said would back a peoples vote.

Figure that out! That's party politics. Why a cross party team could never have worked. People need to be honourable.

Backbiter

Lornapink wrote: »

Just a reminder I placed my first ever bet about a year ago on Penny Mordaunt becoming PM. Looking more likely going by tonight's reports.

The one who lied about us not having a veto about Turkey joining the EU?
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=70724324&postcount=2760

The one who thinks our fishing rights should extend 100 miles into mainland France?

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=70821933&postcount=4965



I wouldn't brag about backing someone like that.

buglawton

Brag <> predict

The_Big_Seedy_Bun

So, just to clarify from the Leave people, at what point do the EU roll over and give us most of what we want because they need us more than we need them? And where are all these other trade agreements you were promising?

You've all been predicting this for the last two years, but now it just looks very much like we're about to step off a cliff.