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Brexit the economy and house prices part 6
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I thought you (in particular, and brexiteers) make a big deal about how unreliable polling is?
Polling is unreliable. That's why it got the referendum and the 2015 election results wrong. But that doesn't stop drowning remainers clutching every passing straw and proclaiming that every poll which tells them what they want to hear is further evidence that there should be another referendum.
Not everyone thinks so.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/226071
Oh, and just because I posted a comment about a poll commissioned by the EU showing lukewarm support by the Italians, it doesn't mean that I accept it as gospel. It was no more than a response to a suggestion that the EU is the fount of all good.0 -
Polling is unreliable. That's why it got the referendum and the 2015 election results wrong. But that doesn't stop drowning remainers clutching every passing straw and proclaiming that every poll which tells them what they want to hear is further evidence that there should be another referendum.
Not everyone thinks so.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/226071
Oh, and just because I posted a comment about a poll commissioned by the EU showing lukewarm support by the Italians, it doesn't mean that I accept it as gospel. It was no more than a response to a suggestion that the EU is the fount of all good.
Thank you, have signed.What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare0 -
Floored studies that would never hope to capture the reality. No one working cash in hand and claiming benefits is going to participate in a survey with a semi-official looking person carrying a clip board.
On one hand you say we need immigrants to do all the low paid work, on the other that somehow they are paying lots of tax! 6 m immigrants signed-on to a GP's surgery in the last 10 years.
As I always ask, whay is your end-vision? Relentless immigration until...........
Not all immigrants are low paid. Lots of them are higher rate tax payers, which is why they make a net contribution.
6m immigrants may have registered with GP surgeries, but are they taking up any more GP time than native pensioners? Every time I'm in the place is full of old British people with nothing wrong.0 -
How do you know there is nothing wrong with them.Not all immigrants are low paid. Lots of them are higher rate tax payers, which is why they make a net contribution.
6m immigrants may have registered with GP surgeries, but are they taking up any more GP time than native pensioners? Every time I'm in the place is full of old British people with nothing wrong.0 -
Interesting to think that in 1959 the number of people in poverty was a small fraction of 3 billion. How do I know this? Because the entire population of the world was 3 billion in 1959!There are over 3 billion people on the globe living in poverty still.
That's 6 times the entire number of bodies in the whole EU.
Even the poorest income in the UK is a king's ransom to many of these people.
Technology will only increase the number of people available globally.
Technology begets population, population begets poverty...0 -
How do you know there is nothing wrong with them.
Educated guess. My point which you've so carefully missed is that migrant workers tend to use the NHS less than the native elderly, so there being 6m of them registered with the NHS doesn't necessarily put a huge strain on it. It's a big number, though.0 -
Educated guess. My point which you've so carefully missed is that migrant workers tend to use the NHS less than the native elderly, so there being 6m of them registered with the NHS doesn't necessarily put a huge strain on it. It's a big number, though.
If that was your point why did you add your so call educated guess which is totally irrelevant.0 -
Thrugelmir wrote: »Is the success of the US economy (i.e. more productive) down to more flexible labour laws and less of being a nanny state?
PS. Not suggesting that the model is equitable and without fault.
Unions are strong in some industries, otherwise you have pretty much no rights.
Land and raw materials are cheap.If that was your point why did you add your so call educated guess which is totally irrelevant.
You love being pedantic.
"educated guess
noun
a guess based on knowledge and experience and therefore likely to be correct."
The old people who are being forced to come back to the UK because they get paid in sterling are the ones that will be a drain on the NHS.
We know from official statistics that european migrants are a net contributor to the NHS. They are the only thing propping up this country, we're going to miss them if they decide that the hostile environment isn't where they want to live. Some have left already.Our media sneer at the likes of China and their autocratic style of government, but they have ambitious; long standing plans to make their economy the #1 in the world for generations.
At the expense of the people themselves. You wouldn't like it if our government behaved like China.Joan_number_1 wrote: »Often such links are posted here purely to show remainers that there are other equally valid opinions and predictions to theirs.
Not all opinions and predictions are equally valid. When leave.eu conned you all into voting to leave, they did it by predicting we would easily get a decent trade deal. That prediction was not equally valid. If someone holds the opinion that we'll be better off outside the EU, then that certainly isn't equally valid. We know too many facts, being in denial doesn't change that.
We would need to go turbo denial like North Korea for brexit to be regarded as a success by the population.0 -
Polling is unreliable. That's why it got the referendum and the 2015 election results wrong. But that doesn't stop drowning remainers clutching every passing straw and proclaiming that every poll which tells them what they want to hear is further evidence that there should be another referendum.
Not everyone thinks so.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/226071
Oh, and just because I posted a comment about a poll commissioned by the EU showing lukewarm support by the Italians, it doesn't mean that I accept it as gospel. It was no more than a response to a suggestion that the EU is the fount of all good.
Oh the irony. Polling is unreliable, so you ask people to take part in a poll. The government should ignore it because it's unreliable, got it.0 -
………. I think hard brexit supporters are probably a minority but with the the majority of rest only prepared to accept leave in name only hard brexiters might well get thier way.
A real triumph for democracy thenFew people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0
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