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Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

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  • Arklight
    Arklight Posts: 3,184 Forumite
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    Cakeguts wrote: »
    I don't hate anyone either but I do have a big problem with people who have a certain personality disorder because of the manipulation and abuse. It is that extremely selfish manipulation including buying them by giving them free transport that gets 100,000 people to get them attention from the media that I don't like.



    I don't like people who manipulate others for their own benefit. They are as bad as conmen. Basically I would like the organisers of that march to be humiliated it is what they need then you will see who they really are.

    The humiliation must really be sinking in now because there are almost 600,000 there and they’ve just been addressed witha rousing speech from enemy of the people, Delia Smith.
  • Arklight
    Arklight Posts: 3,184 Forumite
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    Cakeguts wrote: »
    The football thing needs to be said. I expec they had to close roads to accommodate all the people on this march.


    I would like to think that there would be payment from the people on the march towards the policing but somehow I don't think there will be and you and I will pay for it again.

    You really don’t like democracy very much, do you?
  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 4,898 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Most will attend in the hope that sufficient numbers turn up as well. If they don't. Then the impetus will fade. Providing free coaches is one way of boosting numbers. Suggesting that asked to pay . People wouldn't be as keen. Money influencing politics yet again.

    I wonder who is actually funding the organisations that are paying to bus people in. There might be a clue here.

    https://order-order.com/2018/10/19/backdoor-eu-funding-losers-vote/
  • Arklight
    Arklight Posts: 3,184 Forumite
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    cogito wrote: »
    I wonder who is actually funding the organisations that are paying to bus people in. There might be a clue here.

    https://order-order.com/2018/10/19/backdoor-eu-funding-losers-vote/

    Right wing tin foil hat conspiracy site read by right wing tin foil hat conspiracists finds right wing tin foil hat conspiracy. Shocker.
  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 4,898 Forumite
    Arklight wrote: »
    Right wing tin foil hat conspiracy site read by right wing tin foil hat conspiracists finds right wing tin foil hat conspiracy. Shocker.

    Two extreme left wing organisations who receive more than half their funding from the EU applauded by Arklight. Shocker.
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 16,111 Forumite
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    edited 20 October 2018 at 3:58PM
    How many people turned up to the last pro brexit March? 10? 15?

    I'm amused at the concerns where the funding comes from when it's viewed as anti brexit, but not an issue even when actually illegal when it's pro-brexit.

    Another vote is the only way to conclude this farce, however anti-democratic that'd be. The only reason that holds any water for being against it is a fear they'd lose.
    cogito wrote: »
    Perhaps as well. I've followed your posts on this topic and it seems that every single one of them is about the possible (and I use the word deliberately) impact of Brexit on you personally. You seem totally incapable of seeing the wider picture or to consider the possibility that things may not turn out as you pessimistically believe.
    He's being honest and introducing another perspective; one of the many people who are directly affected by Brexit.

    As he said; people in his boat (Like me) will need to take measures to protect their business and it's likely the UK will lose out from those actions.
  • Lungboy
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    cogito wrote: »
    Two extreme left wing organisations who receive more than half their funding from the EU applauded by Arklight. Shocker.

    Extreme left? Really?
  • Enterprise_1701C
    Enterprise_1701C Posts: 23,414 Forumite
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    edited 20 October 2018 at 4:16PM
    Herzlos wrote: »
    How many people turned up to the last pro brexit March? 10? 15?

    I'm amused at the concerns where the funding comes from when it's viewed as anti brexit, but not an issue even when actually illegal when it's pro-brexit.

    Another vote is the only way to conclude this farce, however anti-democratic that'd be. The only reason that holds any water for being against it is a fear they'd lose.

    He's being honest and introducing another perspective; one of the many people who are directly affected by Brexit.

    As he said; people in his boat (Like me) will need to take measures to protect their business and it's likely the UK will lose out from those actions.

    Another vote? And what if that one was marginal for Leave, would you want another vote? If it was marginal for Remain it would almost certainly trigger rebellion among Leave. There is no way that you would get a large majority for Remain.

    I seriously think that another vote would be the worst thing we could do, no-one would be happy whatever the result.

    Even if Remain won I can see the eu putting certain restrictions up, we could have to join the euro, we could have to join Schengen, we could lose our rebate. Either way, if we stayed in it would end up costing us more and more, both fiscally and in other ways. More countries are lined up to join and I can't see any of them being net contributors.

    The eu is too big for it's boots. It should really look at how it is run before it thinks about expanding further, if we ran our company like that we would have been bankrupt a long time ago, instead they just put up membership fees, and that seriously puts a dampener on the countries that are doing well. Within the eu countries seem to be rewarded for doing badly and punished for doing well.
    What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare
  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 4,898 Forumite
    Herzlos wrote: »
    How many people turned up to the last pro brexit March? 10? 15?

    I'm amused at the concerns where the funding comes from when it's viewed as anti brexit, but not an issue even when actually illegal when it's pro-brexit.

    The Courts ruled that the leave campaign did nothing wrong. They approached the Electoral Commission to ask if what they proposed to do was permissible and the Commission said that it was. The court ruled that the fault lay with the Commission who misinterpreted their own rules. Had they advised correctly, the phony argument that the leave campaign had somehow acted illegally would never have seen daylight.

    You really need to keep up and find something else to amuse you.
  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 4,898 Forumite
    Lungboy wrote: »
    Extreme left? Really?

    Are you suggesting that they promote right wing ideas? Their agenda is pretty clear if you spend any time on their websites.
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