Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

Joan_number_1_2

cogito wrote: »

Her and people like her are the cause of the chaos. So she wants another vote. She ain't gonna get one.

All she's doing is keeping the lawyers in work. As for contributing ( if anyone really has because it's easy just to say) you might as well hand your dosh straight to a lawyer.

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

You have APNR in the UK which detects untaxed, untested and uninsured vehicles and if applied correctly can take these vehicles off the road. Unfortunately it doesn't work for non-UK registered vehicles which can come and go with impunity and without checks if they are registered elsewhere in the EU.

If bugslet is reading this, I am certain that she will confirm this. The insurance companies who have to pick up the bills certainly can.

Definitely, if an car with no tax/MOT/insurance goes past an ANPR it'll be flagged up, but they aren't that prevalent and there are precious few traffic cops on the roads these days.
ANPR still won't catch cars which are 'legal' on paper, but being driven by a driver who shouldn't be, or the car is not roadworthy, or it's being used outwith construction & use or the insured purposes (couriers on SD&P insurance).


ANPR can read and parse non-UK plates, so can track them from site to site and how long they've been here, but we didn't sign up to the arrangement that let's us access the appropriate vehicle database to detect if it's legal. We won't be getting any closer integration of systems there post Brexit either. So that ones purely on the UK Government, and whilst it's abused by lots of foreigners, it's not a national trait.

Herzlos

Joan_number_1 wrote: »

No, it is Project Fear / remainers doing that "squawking" not "brexiteers".

Very true, the Brexiteer reply to most of this stuff is a pretty reassuring "who cares if you can't do ____ in ____?" or "Project Fear!".

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

Her and people like her are the cause of the chaos. So she wants another vote. She ain't gonna get one.

How so? All she's ensured so far is that Parliament gets a say in the Brexit deal.
All the chaos is coming from a cabinet that can't decide what it wants to do.

StevieJ

cogito wrote: »

Her and people like her are the cause of the chaos. So she wants another vote. She ain't gonna get one.

We won, that is enough democracy for now.

Herzlos

I didn't realise that was how democracy works. Why are you so scared of the woman? Worried we'll get another vote and you'll lose? Otherwise why don't you just ignore her?

wunferall

Arklight wrote: »

How the swagger and the pomposity of the brexiteers has changed since the first part of this thread.

They puffed their chests and proclaimed a brave new world back then, now they mither and squawk about whether they’ll even be able to drive their diesel estates in France next year.

I see your earlier post is being strictly adhered-to.

Arklight wrote: »

I’m on the side of facts, rather than rabidly accusing people of a thought crime using tenuous straw man arguments.

:rotfl:

buglawton

gfplux wrote: »

The EU was yes slowly working towards total cooperation between country’s over registration numbers of vehicles and laws, including speeding, being traced back to the driver involved. Britain has been slow to adopt this but it is now dead in the water for Britain out of the EU. Another benefit of Brexit.

It is called the Cross Border Enforcement Directive CBED

https://etsc.eu/faq-eu-cross-border-enforcement-directive/

No wonder British drivers might get extra scrutiny after Brexit when the are driving in the EU27

Fines follow British drivers home from France, Belgium and the Netherlands already. Not the other way around, mind.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/05/british-motorists-continent-face-640-speeding-fines-saturday/
Because the British government works for balanced British rights with the same fervour and clarity that it puts into getting a good Brexit deal.

gfplux

buglawton wrote: »

Fines follow British drivers home from France, Belgium and the Netherlands already. Not the other way around, mind.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/05/british-motorists-continent-face-640-speeding-fines-saturday/
Because the British government works for balanced British rights with the same fervour and clarity that it puts into getting a good Brexit deal.

I stand corrected. As you rightly point out Britain had delayed the implementation but are now on board, in a way.

Would a good withdrawal deal include speeding fines following Brits Home?

buglawton

The point is that the British government has been sloppy in allowing follow-home fines to be imposed on Brits, while not doing anything to reciprocate. Most especially about mainland EU lorry drivers who drive here. So will the government be just as sloppy on the quid pro quo details of the Brexit deal?