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  • pmduk
    pmduk Posts: 10,682 Forumite
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    Lip_Stick wrote: »
    I agree with that. I'm more having a go at the people who hear that a child younger than the rated age has been playing a game, and then act like the parent is the moors murderer or something.

    I accept that the age rating is a guide, but when the game playing and behavioural issues coincide you shouldn't just ignore the fact.
  • Madbags
    Madbags Posts: 222 Forumite
    pmduk wrote: »
    I accept that the age rating is a guide, but when the game playing and behavioural issues coincide you shouldn't just ignore the fact.


    Exactly. My mother/father when they used to let me play on the computer when I was young used to kick me off it if I got angry in any way. This was games like Mario on the NES (which is still one annoying game) or whatever else it was on the Amiga.



    No ifs, no buts, just "get off now". I wouldn't argue 'cause my Dad would have kicked me off it in the literal sense.
  • MB69
    MB69 Posts: 99 Forumite
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    ok, so had another response to my questions from the enforcement team.

    The proof is in the shape of a text and not voice based. They said it is in a text that he had sent that has been reported.

    i have checked the account, but nothing is there. Doesn't mean he hasn't deleted it though.

    Shame microsoft don't have the option to mirror all conversations to another account ( parent ) from a child's account so even if the child deletes the conversation, the parent knows what has been said.

    His ban is almost lifted ( tonight). So will be testing my theory and seeing what happens!
  • Fosterdog
    Fosterdog Posts: 4,948 Forumite
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    So it looks like your innocent little angel was mostly likely lying all along? Wow I didn't see that one coming
  • pmduk
    pmduk Posts: 10,682 Forumite
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    And devious to boot!
  • MB69
    MB69 Posts: 99 Forumite
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    Well I don't know what has been said and who has said it!

    He either has deleted it, or never sent it or replied to something that someone sent him and then deleted!

    He knows that if this is true and he has really said or done something like this, then next offence he will be banned for a lot longer!

    We shall see.

    in the mean time, i am going to try my theory tonight and see what happens.
  • Lip_Stick
    Lip_Stick Posts: 2,415 Forumite
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    pmduk wrote: »
    I accept that the age rating is a guide, but when the game playing and behavioural issues coincide you shouldn't just ignore the fact.
    Completely agree. Multiplayer wasn't available when I was younger, well not at 8. Later on though I did have friends who raged at games to the point the controller got sent flying across the room into a wall. I can never understand that. How is doing that going to help?

    I hear my son arguing with friends getting upset and at this point I tell him to remove himself as it has ceased being fun. I also tell him if he throws something around the room or breaks anything in temper, then privileges will seriously be lost. He got a temporary ban once on overwatch, I think because of a written message, and he has been ok since.
    There's a storm coming, Mr Johnson. You and your friends better batten down the hatches, because when it hits, you're all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us.
  • bluenoseam
    bluenoseam Posts: 4,612 Forumite
    MB69 wrote: »
    Well I don't know what has been said and who has said it!

    He either has deleted it, or never sent it or replied to something that someone sent him and then deleted!

    He knows that if this is true and he has really said or done something like this, then next offence he will be banned for a lot longer!

    We shall see.

    in the mean time, i am going to try my theory tonight and see what happens.

    The important thing - while YOU do not know what has been said and who said it, the service provider on the other hand will have a knowledge of precisely who, what, when etc. They have acted in the complaint in question & issued what they feel to be a ban relative to the offence committed.

    Where do you go from here? Well simply put in the future despite this other child's thoughts, if he is blocked then there is no threat whatsoever. Microsoft will not see a "paper trail" and as a result cannot issue a ban for an offence they cannot prove, otherwise the whole system would be banned.

    As harsh as it is to hear this, the likelihood is that your child has breached the ToS which prohibit such behaviour. While most would I dare say "ignore" it we're talking about kids, they're not exactly best prepared to deal with things the way us adults would. In future check the parental controls on the account, ensure that communication is only within the bounds of "friends only" and that the other child in question is not on his friends list.
    Retired member - fed up with the general tone of the place.
  • unholyangel
    unholyangel Posts: 16,866 Forumite
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    MB69 wrote: »
    Well I don't know what has been said and who has said it!

    He either has deleted it, or never sent it or replied to something that someone sent him and then deleted!

    He knows that if this is true and he has really said or done something like this, then next offence he will be banned for a lot longer!

    We shall see.

    in the mean time, i am going to try my theory tonight and see what happens.

    Its been sent or MS wouldn't know anything about it. Its even possible that ms have deleted the offending message rather than your son.

    Which leaves 2 possibilities for who sent it.
    1) Your son
    2) A friend of your sons who was in your house and had access to your sons account

    You say your son gets 1 hour per day and that you're in the next room? So you should at least know if 2 is a possibility. If not then you're looking at 1.
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
  • Unky_Al
    Unky_Al Posts: 65 Forumite
    @MB69 have you thought about putting the Xbox App on your phone as a way of monitoring the messages he sends/recieves?
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