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Should I wind my neck in?
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As a general statement freeholders/managing agents only tend to act on parking because of resident pressures. And, in my experience anyway, these pressures need to be loud and persistent.
Indeed, and similar situations sometimes occur in supermarkets / retail parks, where the landowner says that their customers have complained about not being able to find a space to park.
The problem is though, that once the 'rogue' parkers have been deterred, the PPC still wants to make money from the operation, and it is those same residents / shoppers who then receive the majority of the tickets.
On a similar theme, I worked for a company a few years ago, and they set up a vehicle depot in a sleepy little village on a small industrial estate. Drivers would start work at 6am, taking cars for delivery through the village to get to the motorway.
The residents complained to the Police that our drivers were speeding through the village, and a speed camera was duly installed. 12 months on, the Police revealed statistics on the number of drivers zapped by the camera. 80% of them were local residents.
I have been providing assistance, including Lay Representation at Court hearings (current score: won 57, lost 14), to defendants in parking cases for over 5 years. I have an LLB (Hons) degree, and have a Graduate Diploma in Civil Litigation from CILEx. However, any advice given on these forums by me is NOT formal legal advice, and I accept no liability for its accuracy.1 -
IamEmanresu wrote: »+1
.... but as they come for help but not judgment, they get help.
Oh sure. I understand that.
At the risk of mentioning the CAB word again (!) as a volunteer there we have to be non judgemental whatever we are listening to.1 -
Indeed, and similar situations sometimes occur in supermarkets / retail parks, where the landowner says that their customers have complained about not being able to find a space to park.
The problem is though, that once the 'rogue' parkers have been deterred, the PPC still wants to make money from the operation, and it is those same residents / shoppers who then receive the majority of the tickets.
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Again, sure.
We all have our own experiences. In my case we own the freehold and the majority of the directors live on site. This was the case, too, in the block I lived in previously. We are pretty in tune with what is going on and would have no problems overturning unjustly issued tickets. Indeed we would probably overturn 99%.
It was one of the reasons I quite liked Flashpark self ticketing when we were looking at it. Flashpark would not have been on site. And, yes, before anyone rants at me I do get the pitfalls too.1 -
Thank you all, the majority seem to be prepared to put up with my nonsense. so I shall carry on..
Unfortunately UMKO, I am no IT whiz kid, I had to buy a new laptop a couple of months ago, and I am really struggling with Windows 10, (I still have not managed to print all our bank statements, or cure horizonal scrolling).
I do not find the private messages facility here easy to get on with, and know that if I pm-ed newbies, that I would be flooded with questions I am not qualified to answer. I am approaching 80, and becoming very idle, I still have not read the new privacy bumph.
Anyway, with a fair wind, our Knight in Shining Armour, a.k.a. Sir Gregory, will surely soon present us with the head of the fearsome dragon on a plate.lYou never know how far you can go until you go too far.0 -
This has evolved into an interesting thread, getting us away temporarily from the Groundhog Day stuff.
I've enjoyed the exchanges..
Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street1 -
As a director I'd be more inclined, for example, to listen to someone who suggested a different way of controlling parking
I am not sure there is one, it depends on the calibre of the tenants.
I have a flat in an up market block on the river, parking is no problem at all. I also have a flat in an HA complex with lots of HB tenants. Not only do many park where they like, they dump their mattresses in the bike store, and leave litter everywhere. The HA support the PPC, (CPM), to the hilt.You never know how far you can go until you go too far.0 -
The only issue I have is that if you're doing it in the hope that 10% write to their MP then I think you're going to be somewhat disappointed.
IMO you'd be lucky to get 0.01% ....1 -
A far better thing to post would be
Have you bothered to read the Stickies as we guarantee that doing so will stop 99.9% of you posting on here with the same repetitive snowflake questions.1 -
Computersaysno wrote: »The only issue I have is that if you're doing it in the hope that 10% write to their MP then I think you're going to be somewhat disappointed.
IMO you'd be lucky to get 0.01% ....
I think it is much better than that CSN. Nearly every one of my posts is thanked, often two or three times, and several posters tell me that they will write to their M.P.
I am not prone to exaggeration and think that my figures will stand up to scrutiny.You never know how far you can go until you go too far.0
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