Prepping for Brexit thread

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For the record and to set things into perspective HWK and I both have regular medications that deal with health issues that will never go away and we will deal with the supply of them from the NHS on a monthly basis. Our surgery will only issue prescriptions for 1 months supply at any time so we'll be in the same position as the rest of the population when it comes to getting them after Brexit. I'm not in panic mode over it and will find out what happens when it does or doesn't become available, 70 years of NHS has reduced us all to dependents I wonder how folks coped before it?

timehastoldme

They didn't.

fuddle

There's medication shortages now even before Brexit. The Bricanyl Turbohaler stocks were very low in November. Asthmatics had to use another brand ensuring that the stocks of that med were hit harder than planned.

I had to wait 10 months for the pneumonia jab.

People are being put out with their meds all the time. It's very blingsighted to think it will be a new problem once we leave the EU. It's a problem when we are in the EU too!

timehastoldme

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

They must have or we wouldn't still exist as a species and wouldn't be having this discussion today!

Pre NHS one in twenty babies died before their first birthday, now one in two hundred. Life expectancy has increased by ~14 years for both men and women. Polio has been eradicated, HIV has become a nuisance rather than a death sentence and heart attacks have become survivable. Living long enough to reproduce fine for most animals, I'd like to think as humans we could set our sights a little higher.

humptydumptybits

dreaming wrote: »

I am a leave-voter, and I am sorry that people are so worried about medication supplies. In my previous post (above) I have said that I too take daily medication and have managed to get a week or two ahead by finagling the prescription ordering but I have to say I have not seen a post on this thread that says these concerns aren't real, or are "made up". It also reinforces my desire to leave the EU as I don't believe this country should be so reliant on others for what most would consider a basic human need. However, I also think that rather than direct anger at people who hold opposing views, it should be directed at the people who can do something about it - the Government. Have you asked you doctor/pharmacist/health authority for advice?

The advice is the govt are stock piling six weeks supply. That is it. I have no faith in that, for one thing I live out in the sticks and it isn't unusual to go to collect meds and find you have to wait a day or two as they try to get a supply. I imagine cities get first dibs, understandable in one way as more will be needed in cities but not very reassuring if you don't live in a city.


The posts dismissing worries about meds are on MSE, not this thread particularly.


It isn't the EU's fault that we aren't producing the med, it isn't the EU's fault we are in this position. We need to accept that it was a British decision and the EU aren't under any obligation to sort it out for us.


It is nice to hear you are sorry people are worried.

humptydumptybits

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

For the record and to set things into perspective HWK and I both have regular medications that deal with health issues that will never go away and we will deal with the supply of them from the NHS on a monthly basis. Our surgery will only issue prescriptions for 1 months supply at any time so we'll be in the same position as the rest of the population when it comes to getting them after Brexit. I'm not in panic mode over it and will find out what happens when it does or doesn't become available, 70 years of NHS has reduced us all to dependents I wonder how folks coped before it?

The NHS hasn't reduced me to dependent it has enabled me to carry on living. Not all health issues are the same, some regular medication makes life easier some makes life possible.

Primrose

On the question of medication I realise that many people (including myself) absolutely depend on some of them for certain conditions and going without would involve a real risk to their health in some way.

However, when you consider the millions of pounds which the NHS spends on medications, this may be an ideal time for many people to take back control of their health in certain ways which might ultimately result in them having to come off medication altogether.

I've been reading Dr Chatterjee,s recently published book The 4 pillars of Health, following his tv programmes about getting people, including diabetics, to change their diets and lifestyles to such an extent that they no longer require medication.

I realise that this will not be the answer for everybodys' potential medication shortage issues, but it does occur to me that some thoughtful consideration of many medical conditions might, for some people, offer them an alternative possible route.

For example if you needed heart medication because your blood pressure was too high because you were greatly overweight, would not using the next three months to lose some weight not ease your concerns about needing that medication in the first place? And might your blood pressure not reduce to the point where you no longer needed that medication?

And if you were diabetic because you were eating the wrong type of food, would not drastically changing your diet to a more suitable one or taking a little more exercise, even if you march on the spot indoors on a rainy day, result perhaps in needing less medication once your vital statistics improved?

I realise this is simplifying the argument and wont work for everybody but for some, this alternative form of prepping for Brexit as far as medication is concerned, encouraging people to research a more holistic lifestyle as an alternative, would perhaps reduce their need for medication in the first place.

Living_proof

humptydumptybits wrote: »

So true, with hindsight we'd all be millionaires.

Earlier today I look up the address I used to live in in Kensington, not a good part but a Mews near Cromwell Road. My old flatmate bought it off the landlord for £8000 in around 1974. It is now up for sale a tad under £1.5M. I can't remember what the average London salary was in those days, but I think £8K would have been more than 3 times the new graduate salary.

maryb

I started work as a new graduate in 1976 on £1850pa

Living_proof

maryb wrote: »

I started work as a new graduate in 1976 on £1850pa

I have around £2000 in my mind. My flatmate was a senior health visitor so would have been on a good but not remarkable salary and probably had a sizeable deposit from the family. But it was doable then but certainly wouldn't be these days - even at the highest HV grade specialist salary the cost of that flat would now be 36x salary.

Scary.