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Prepping for Brexit thread
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lessonlearned wrote: »"Right sort of people". :rotfl::rotfl:
Great post GQ.
And you are right about the whole Pan European state thing and other countries also wanting out. My Belgian relatives tell me that a lot of Belgians are nervous and unhappy too. Merkels demands for a EU army was the final straw and it has really put the wind up a lot of Belgians. Not surprising when you consider what their lives were like under the Occupation. People don't forget.
It's not just the U.K. and Italy who would like to sever ties......
The media hype is well and truly getting on my wick.
Roll on April and then hopefully we can just get back to the business of living ......One branch of my family has been living in and around Brussels since Edwardian times. They've been through a lot, including living under enemy occupation through both wars and are not at all happy about the EU, despite several family members having worked for decades for the British Embassy....... when we achieve escape velocity, there are plenty of other People (presumably also Not of the Right Type) itching to follow us.
The EU was fatally wounded when we voted out, what we're seeing now is them lashing out in their death throes. I'm sanguine about that, but I could easily lose sleep about an expanded EU provoking Russia into a war.Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
John Ruskin
Veni, vidi, eradici
(I came, I saw, I kondo'd)
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Goldiegirl wrote: »Although, in the last recession we didn't also rip up forty years worth of trade agreements and other treaties and leave all the agencies we are part of as members of the EU. So I think it'll be very different, particularly if we leave the EU without a deal.
Business isn't personal it will make our home grown businesses more competitive in the UK market, most of the cheap tat comes from china our 2th largest non EU trading partner, There will be winners and losers as in life, It will be a difficult time especially for those that business are tangled in EU bureaucracy, but its is in no way comparable in any way to war and it makes a mockery to try too.0 -
A big thank you to Cuddlymarm and others who tried to help provide practical ideas in the event of supply problems arising after Brexit.
I am angered and saddened in equal measures that so many people kept coming back to push their political agenda, in spite of being asked not to on many occasions, seems that none of them had the sphericals to create their own thread for discussion/argument and leave those of us to go along the purely practical route, shame on you.The best thing about the future is that it comes one day at a time. (Abraham Lincoln)1 -
Absolutely right, maddiemay, the place for political debate and discussion is in the Discussion Time forum. There are a lot of people on there who love to discuss current affairs, and some of them are very articulate and well informed and will give a good and rational debate on the pros and cons of Brexit.One life - your life - live it!0
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The difference in our way of thinking is that we are quite happy for other people to have differing ideas and views to ours and it seems as though some of the current posters aren't happy at all for us to think the way we do and want to take away that privilege from us and replace it with their own ideology. I've read nothing and heard no argument that will change my views and will continue prepping not particularly for Brexit but because I think being prepared for the unexpected is common sense and it's easy enough to do on a rolling basis.
It isn't my fault that these people didn't get the result they wanted, I'm sad for their distress but I can't change what's happened and have them all on ignore so I don't read their posts. Carry on prepping my friends, the future is there to be made good!0 -
So agree with you Grey Queen about the so called people’s vote, ridiculous almost Orwellian attempt at verbal manipulation. As for the claim that people didn’t know what they were voting for and they didn’t vote to be poorer, I think there is a strong argument for saying that by ignoring Osborne and his predictions of immediate redundancies and an emergency budget, they did vote knowing they could be poorer. And the prediction of house prices falling raised a cheer in the household of every young person trying to buy a place of their own
But it is the people agitating for a second referendum who don’t know what they will be voting for. Unless we rescind Article 50 before 29 March there is no guarantee we would have the same terms on rejoining. Bear in mind a lot of European countries have compulsory national service with some having reintroduced it recently. Add that to an EU army and ask yourselves if you want your children shivering on the border with Russia
very few seem to enjoy real personal security let alone the assurance that they can count on thriving with hard work. This affects the middle class as well as the working poor though it is more obvious to them. They don’t deserve to have to put up with crap terms all their lives just because there is an endless supply of young people from countries with less purchasing power who do it for a few years then go home and lead the rest of their lives mortgage free. They are arbitraging the difference and just because they are mostly doing physical work doesn’t mean they are not affecting the market as much as someone in the City arbitraging stocks and shares
But to get back to the intended purpose of this thread. There will be some disruption. But bear in mind that dock workers in Calais have often gone on strike. That has led to disruption involving lorries on the M20 and Operation Stack. We were not reduced to cannibalism after the first week. The regional authorities in France are doing everything they can to ensure trade keeps flowing, they are well aware that ports further North in Holland and Belgium are quietly getting on with preparations to handle any trade they can steal. And you have only to look at the gilets jaunes to get an idea of how French producers will react if they are unable to get their produce to market. As far as I know, French cows need milking every day just like ours
So gear up for a few weeks of sparsely stocked (but probably not empty) shelves. The critical areas have been identified such as medicines and they will implement those plans if need be. We are not at war with the EU. They will not withhold supplies of medicines but the logistics of getting them here may be different until things settle down - which they will, there will be a new normal and life will go onIt doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!0 -
moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »:rotfl::rotfl: "Clarifying" vote:rotfl::rotfl:
Better tell those that compile dictionaries that apparently the word "leave" isn't clear enough and we need to invent another one that means exactly the same thing - but is a different word for it.
An example "Sam is going to leave the room" - that means "Sam is going to walk out of the room".
It could also mean Sam is going to get carried out of the room, pushed out of the room, crawl out of the room. I'm sure there are other variations.
Honey Bear, apologies I missed your post making the same point.0 -
Do you think that TPTB will issue some sort of public information film on how to prepare for possible shortages, etc. ? Like the ones they used to have re. nuclear attacks back in the day.
I have noticed a lot of articles in the online press over the holidays about prepping specifically for the B word but some of them were a little extreme with one lady stocking for six months' worth of food for her family. That sort of scale would be quite hard for families in limited spaces.
I am consciously filling freezers with my own produce and really good YS buys, dehydrating plenty of fruit and veg and also fermenting some items. I am also saving quite a lot of my meagre income and delaying large expenditure, although that might be unwise if there's to be a run on the pound. I'd maybe be better spending it now in the case of anything that's imported.
Wouldn't it be great to have the benefit of hindsight?Solar Suntellite 250 x16 4kW Afore 3600TL dual 2KW E 2KW W no shade, DN15 March 14
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humptydumptybits wrote: »It could also mean Sam is going to get carried out of the room, pushed out of the room, crawl out of the room. I'm sure there are other variations.
Honey Bear, apologies I missed your post making the same point.
Or how about Sam is going to leave the room just as it is. He won't bother to decorate it.Solar Suntellite 250 x16 4kW Afore 3600TL dual 2KW E 2KW W no shade, DN15 March 14
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Living_proof wrote: »Or how about Sam is going to leave the room just as it is. He won't bother to decorate it.
A perfect example of just how slippery our wonderful language is! Clever, clever Living Proof!Better is good enough.0
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