Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Herzlos

wunferall wrote: »

Rubbish! Even the Institute for Economic Affairs has said that a WTO Brexit could be very good for the UK and they aren't the only ones who have suggested the same.

ETA the border being referred to is (oh! Surprise!) the one in Ireland before you try to deviate from the topic.

How come the figures are so different from those from the department for exiting the EU?


I'm aware we're talking about the Irish border, we've got a border everywhere else and the EU is preparing to have to stop and check everything crossing it.

Herzlos

Hey_Jude_1967 wrote: »

No we didn't , sorry if that doesn't fit in with your little puzzle. Its nice to see I'm not the only poster who has experienced the qeues.

I'll wait for the apology from your friend....:)

I had no idea Croatia to Venice was so popular. But even so, I'll assume it's a reasonable claim even if it defies logic. There must be something funny going on there.

Herzlos

wunferall wrote: »

Your pal mayonnaise has just proven you wrong. Funny thing but the whole of the world apart from relatively few EU countries doesn't even have separate passport control for EU or non-EU citizens. Funnier still, they all seem to cope with that loss (?) quite well.

This is the same argument as "the rest of the world isn't in the eu and managed which has never been in dispute. We'll still be able to visit the EU, it's just going to take slightly longer. Holiday makers will barely notice, business travellers will be more annoyed by it, but will manage. We're still talking about millions of hours of time wasted even if the delay is only a few minutes per border crossing.

Pauciloquent_1_2

Herzlos wrote: »

This is the same argument as "the rest of the world isn't in the eu and managed which has never been in dispute. We'll still be able to visit the EU, it's just going to take slightly longer. Holiday makers will barely notice, business travellers will be more annoyed by it, but will manage. We're still talking about millions of hours of time wasted even if the delay is only a few minutes per border crossing.

And?
Tell us how long before your flight you need to be at an airport.
There's far more time wasted there than in any "few minutes per border crossing" - but I've not seen you grumbling about that.
As I have said before; you're just bickering and the reality is that for most people it will make no or very little difference.

Pauciloquent_1_2

Herzlos wrote: »

I'm aware we're talking about the Irish border, we've got a border everywhere else and the EU is preparing to have to stop and check everything crossing it.

It looks like you need to learn what a border is, so the following might help:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/border
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borders_of_the_United_Kingdom
At least you accept that it is the EU that are looking like insisting upon checks, not the UK.

fewgroats

What about the queues of lorries at the ports, Herzlos?

Herzlos

Pauciloquent_1 wrote: »

And?
Tell us how long before your flight you need to be at an airport.
There's far more time wasted there than in any "few minutes per border crossing" - but I've not seen you grumbling about that.
As I have said before; you're just bickering and the reality is that for most people it will make no or very little difference.

2 hours is advised, where you can spend most of that time being productive. Food, working, phone calls etc.
The same can't be said for standing in a queue at security; you're pretty much stuck doing nothing.

Herzlos

fewgroats wrote: »

What about the queues of lorries at the ports, Herzlos?

The queues are going to be horrendous.

melanzana

It all sounds delightfully unnecessary to me.

But then again what do I know, I am not in the UK anymore and have an EU passport woo hoo.

Looking from afar it seems to have driven a huge wedge in the UK . Sadly.

There will be few winners in this.

But fair dues to ROI Government for calling out the TM Government for their utter arrogance in all this.

Staying in the CU is one solution, but yesterday's vote in favour of staying in that Union was "non binding" so what the heck does that really mean? Is it a message to the Government or what.

Thrugelmir

melanzana wrote: »

Looking from afar it seems to have driven a huge wedge in the UK . Sadly.

Which sadly is the wider divide that can be found elsewhere in Europe and over the pond in the USA. The West no longer dominates world affairs. The power is shifting East. The current US version of capitalism has run it's course.