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Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

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  • gfplux
    gfplux Posts: 4,985 Forumite
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    edited 29 March 2018 at 1:35PM
    Bloomberg say there is a bonus for customs staff as in more jobs from the Brexit money tree.
    Or is it a Magic money tree, I can not quite remember Theresa Mays words.

    Perhaps we should ask a nurse!

    Quote
    Border Patrol | The U.K. plans to hire 1,000 new customs and immigration staff to ensure the security of the countrys border after Brexit. The workers will be funded from an additional £395 million ($560 million) pledged to the Home Office, and come on top of the 300 new workers recruited in the fiscal year thats about to end, the Home Offices top civil servant said on Wednesday.
    End quote
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    Arklight wrote: »
    Your generation has enjoyed an absolutely unprecedented increase in wealth and living standards.


    British workers are paid less than they used to be because a certain demographic has continually voted for Tory governments fixated on creating a low pay, low regulatory, low tax business environment. Not for themselves of course.


    There is very little wrong with the UK that purging it of right wing beggar thy neighbour selfishness wouldn't fix.

    We had many tory governments before we joined, and many Labour governments after.

    As usual you dismiss facts and and spout ludicrous Corbynesta dogma.
    If I don't reply to your post,
    you're probably on my ignore list.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    gfplux wrote: »
    Bloomberg say there is a bonus for customs staff as in more jobs from the Brexit money tree.
    Or is it a Magic money tree, I can not quite remember Theresa Mays words.

    Perhaps we should ask a nurse!

    Quote
    Border Patrol | The U.K. plans to hire 1,000 new customs and immigration staff to ensure the security of the countrys border after Brexit. The workers will be funded from an additional £395 million ($560 million) pledged to the Home Office, and come on top of the 300 new workers recruited in the fiscal year thats about to end, the Home Offices top civil servant said on Wednesday.
    End quote

    Do you think we spend enough as it is?

    I've seen how much resource it takes to carry out these inspections on shops and businesses in our cities, looking for illegal migrants.

    Preventing the problem in the first place is invariably cheaper.

    Some think that ID cards offered a viable solution.

    Well, a comprehensive ID card system could easily cost £20bn in today's money. It would also be lucky to avoid an error rate less than 1%.
  • Tromking
    Tromking Posts: 2,691 Forumite
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    gfplux wrote: »
    Let us guess what the Brexit bonus will be.

    Or is it a Brexit dividend?

    Or is it a money tree?

    What do you care?
    The loss of the UK’s EU contributions will no doubt be picked up by Germany. The European single market and its penchant for buying lots of German stuff, all made easier by an artificially undervalued currency will be preserved.
    We’ll manage OK without you. :)
    “Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧
  • wunferall
    wunferall Posts: 845 Forumite
    gfplux wrote: »
    Bloomberg say there is a bonus for customs staff as in more jobs from the Brexit money tree.
    Or is it a Magic money tree, I can not quite remember Theresa Mays words.

    Perhaps we should ask a nurse!

    Quote
    Border Patrol | The U.K. plans to hire 1,000 new customs and immigration staff to ensure the security of the countrys border after Brexit. The workers will be funded from an additional £395 million ($560 million) pledged to the Home Office, and come on top of the 300 new workers recruited in the fiscal year thats about to end, the Home Offices top civil servant said on Wednesday.
    End quote

    Is there a point to that post?

    Nurses eh, well look here: "NHS nurses to get a pay rise of up to 22% in new pay deal".
    https://www.nursinginpractice.com/article/nhs-nurses-get-pay-rise-22-new-pay-deal

    Maybe you missed that, as well you might living outside the UK. Do you see the possibilities of what could happen when we don't have to pay the EU vast sums every year.

    Maybe you missed today's news that our annual current account deficit has gone down too, to the lowest since 2011 apparently. Oh and 2017 growth was revised upwards too, to 1.8%. :T
  • Arklight
    Arklight Posts: 3,184 Forumite
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    wunferall wrote: »
    That isn't true though is it? You could at least check your wild claims before making them just to demonstrate your hatred.

    1964 - 1969 Labour; 1974 - 1978 Labour; 1997 - 2009 Labour; so it looks like Labour haven't done much to reverse your alleged "low pay, low regulatory, low tax business environment" does it? Labour had thirteen years under Blair & Brown so what's your excuse for that?

    Oh yes, Blair. The PM who lied about Iraq, signed off a fortune in PFI, enthusiastically carried on selling off council property and utilities and has now announced he would rather have another Tory government than a Labour one that is actually mildly socialist.

    Well he certainly ticks your boxes.

    :mad:
  • wunferall
    wunferall Posts: 845 Forumite
    Arklight wrote: »
    Oh yes, Blair. The PM who lied about Iraq, signed off a fortune in PFI, enthusiastically carried on selling off council property and utilities and has now announced he would rather have another Tory government than a Labour one that is actually mildly socialist.

    Well he certainly ticks your boxes.

    :mad:

    Ticks them? Apart from wondering how you think you know what "boxes" I have, I wouldn't trust him to look at a box never mind hold one or tick one. Your deflection isn't working; you got caught out.

    Here's more you won't like.
    Theresa May: Brexit allows more spending on NHS and schools
    Asked if she thought Brexit was worth it, she added: "I think there are real opportunities for the UK, I think there's a bright future out there and, yes, I think Brexit is going to deliver a country that will be different, for us to be an independent nation for the future."
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43577208
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Rinoa wrote: »
    When we joined 45 years ago we were amongst the highest paid in the EU. Now we're tenth.

    The EU doesn't appear to have served UK workers too well.

    Look East. The balance of financial power is shifting. Trump knows it too. The EU is still waking up to the fact. The colonial influence of old is in decline.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    gfplux wrote: »
    Day by day the list of the benefits of leaving the EU get............

    closer to reality.
  • buglawton
    buglawton Posts: 9,246 Forumite
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    Do you think we spend enough as it is?

    I've seen how much resource it takes to carry out these inspections on shops and businesses in our cities, looking for illegal migrants.

    Preventing the problem in the first place is invariably cheaper.

    Some think that ID cards offered a viable solution.

    Well, a comprehensive ID card system could easily cost £20bn in today's money. It would also be lucky to avoid an error rate less than 1%.
    What do incidents like this cost us the taxpayers then?
    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/29/uk_border_database_missing_details_of_600000_foreign_visitors/
    For a ha’pence of tar the ship was lost...
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