Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Lornapink

ilovehouses wrote: »

I can't see any way that food in the UK can get anything but more expensive with less variety.

Japan, Australia & the rest have a lessor variety and more expensive foods?

Lornapink

gfplux wrote: »

TODAY could be transition deal day.
Politico say this.
I say Industry will not like the uncertainty that the last couple of lines suggest.

The EU wants a good deal with the UK & wouldn't be bothering with all this negotiating if not.

Remainers said we'd be punished, that the EU needed nothing from us, that it would simply switch to new as yet untapped EU markets, that we had nothing they needed as they could produce all their needs internally, that German car producers would take a hit to sales for the sake of some spurious higher power and that we held no aces.

Looks to me like all that nonsense will be brushed under the carpet by ardent Remainers.

Lornapink

gfplux wrote: »

Actually I do cry when I see the country of my birth take this act of self destruction that is Brexit and Now Brexiters are beginning to tell me its all a gamble.

'Self destruction' - remember this later when you seek to say 'oh I always thought we'd get a good deal in the end'.


There is no destruction other than that going on inside the mid of the ardent Remainer.

Filo25

Lornapink wrote: »

The EU wants a good deal with the UK & wouldn't be bothering with all this negotiating if not.

Remainers said we'd be punished, that the EU needed nothing from us, that it would simply switch to new as yet untapped EU markets, that we had nothing they needed as they could produce all their needs internally, that German car producers would take a hit to sales for the sake of some spurious higher power and that we held no aces.

Looks to me like all that nonsense will be brushed under the carpet by ardent Remainers.

Maybe I've imagined it, but haven't Leavers been saying we are being punished and the EU is being unreasonable for a while now.....

Lornapink

gfplux wrote: »

So Brexit is all a gamble. Exchanging stability and what we think we know all for a spin of the wheel.

Brexit is an opportunity. Exchanging the status quo for innovation.

A great trade deal with the EU, global autonomy. Win win.

Business copes with far greater swings in terms of commodity & currency price movements. Business is a continual process of change.

Lornapink

Filo25 wrote: »

Maybe I've imagined it, but haven't Leavers been saying we are being punished and the EU is being unreasonable for a while now.....

Both statements are true, but the bottom line as argued by Leave from day one is that obviously a very decent UK-EU deal will be done, so there never was anything to worry about. Remain said Leavers were living in a fantasy land for thinking the EU would want a decent deal, that they wanted absolutely nothing from the UK.

Having this great local deal & adding to it with the prize of global autonomy is win-win for UK plc, there is no economic downside.

Lornapink

ilovehouses wrote: »

What do you think those on the ground floor will think if the revolution costs them 25% on their grocery bill?

It wont. The UK-EU deal will be very good & we can then do sector specific quick deals with for example Israel for fruit n veg.

Japan & Australia have higher GDP p. capita than the UK, so we'd need to explore prices there relative to income.

Lornapink

ilovehouses wrote: »

You appear not to know the difference between the transition deal and the final trade deal.

The transition deal is where things stay pretty much the same for a period of time after March 2019. It's no surprise that agreement is close - the aim is to keep things as they are - what's to negotiate?

The negotiations for the final deal which you think 'remainers' will be brushing under the carpet haven't started yet.

EU would not be bothering with all these protracted negotiations unless they wanted a good trade relationship with us, post-Brexit.
In the end Project Fear was nothing but nonsense.

Lornapink

ilovehouses wrote: »

Of course they want a good trade relationship with the UK. The issue is whether or not whatever deal we achieve is better or worse than what we have now.

Oh sweetie, Remain argued from the off trade would fall off a cliff and take us down due to a terrible trade deal. What happened to 'there's nothing they need from us they can't produce themselves'?


They also fell for the line 'Brexit trade deal could take 10 years'


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38324146

Lornapink

ilovehouses wrote: »

You could argue that 'taking into account future arrangements' doesn't extend beyond, for example, EU citizens, a divorce bill and the Irish border.

There's nothing that implies trade talks have to start at the same time. The trading position of a third country was known on the day of the referendum.

One of many examples of you implying the EU isn't motivated or concerned to get a good EU-UK deal done anytime soon, 'after all the UK represents only 4% of EU exports, we need them more than they need us'.


All wrong, as Brexiteers told you guys many times, the EU has much to lose & a very good and timely trade deal obviously was always going to be done