Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Herzlos

What impact does it have on us?

Arklight

gfplux wrote: »

Breaking news. Not needing any comment. This will interest a number of Brexiters who spend a lot of time looking over the channel.
Yes it is off topic, sorry.

Germany has a Government as from about five minutes ago.

And Angela Merkel is in charge again. Darn it. That wasn’t suppose to happen. Europe is meant to be collapsing and Merkel should have been replaced by the far right now.

It’s almost like... it’s almost like the Brexiteers aren’t very good at predicting the future!! :eek:

:eek::eek::eek:

:eek:

Enterprise_1701C

A_Wanderer wrote: »

Toe-may-toe. Toe-mah-toe.
Protectionism. Price rigging.

The French/EU have the monopoly on the name and do keep the price artificially high in comparison to others, they restrict imports into the EU and stop completely others like Canadian Champagne which is legally allowed to be called this.
In the States you can buy (good IMHO) Canadian Champagne for just over $8/bottle.
Californian Champagne starts from about $6/bottle.
By contrast go into Carrefour & the cheapest Champagne is around 12 Euros.


You said it yourself Herzlos so it seems you agree, champagne IS a rip-off.
At least you're supporting Catalonians in buying Cava but try South African Klein Constantia Brut from about £15 or if that's too rich for your pocket (though it is excellent) the M&S NZ Mount Bluff is about a tenner. Both are far superior to any Cava.

We accidentally made our own sparkling wine while ago. We fermented strawberry wine for months on end, left it a good month after it had stopped fermenting, or after it appeared to stop fermenting. First bottle we opened was distinctly fizzy, second bottle was VERY fizzy. Next bottle we open will be outside :rotfl::rotfl: It is seriously good wine though

On the whole not fussed about champagne, we have a few bottles in that we have been given, it is nice, but then so are a lot of other wines.

I think of it as a bit like the way some people choose Apple over Android tabs, more money than sense.

Theophile

Maybe the Italian ones will signal the end of the EU?
There's always a next election for the Europhobes to look forward to.

Rough_Justice

All this bad news, how will we ever cope?

UK business growth gauge rises to two-year high - CBI

British businesses grew at the fastest rate in more than two years in the three months to February, despite uncertainty about Britain's prospects as it prepares to leave the European Union, the Confederation of British Industry said on Sunday.

"It's good to see firm growth in the UK economy this month, and expectations of growth into the next quarter also look positive," CBI chief economist Rain Newton-Smith said.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy/uk-business-growth-gauge-rises-to-two-year-high-cbi-idUKKCN1GG00A

vivatifosi

Theophile wrote: »

Maybe the Italian ones will signal the end of the EU?
There's always a next election for the Europhobes to look forward to.

I dont think it is purely a Brexiteer thing. After all, gfplux is interested in local government elections in the UK, even though he lives in Luxembourg, I don't think he could on any scale be described as a europhobe. I find elections fascinating too, but that probably has more to do with studying politics as an ug:o than it does Brexit.

Rough_Justice

vivatifosi wrote: »

I dont think it is purely a Brexiteer thing. After all, gfplux is interested in local government elections in the UK, even though he lives in Luxembourg, I don't think he could on any scale be described as a europhobe. I find elections fascinating too, but that probably has more to do with studying politics as an ug:o than it does Brexit.

I agree wholeheartedly, I'm sure it isn't purely a Brexiteer thing as witnessed by the mounting anti-EU sentiment across the EU.
I've not seen anybody say the EU is collapsing (yet), have you?
So one must surmise that it is no more than a fear of Europhiles seeing their cozy club being threatened from within as well as from Brexit.

In the Netherlands the Eurosceptic PVV have risen from 5th in 2006 to 2nd in their House of Representatives, plus they have 4 MEP's.
In Austria we have a far-right and Eurosceptic government.
In Germany we now see the AfD as official opposition, and only because the coalition were so scared that failure to agree would lead to another election and an increase in AfD seats.
In Sweden the Eurosceptic Sweden Democrats popularity continues to rise, from 5.7% in 2010 to 12.9% in the 2014 GE and is currently consistently seeing polling of over 20% prior to their forthcoming elections.
Should we mention Italy?

Don't make the mistake of taking this to mean that I think the EU is on the verge of collapse, that's not what I am saying.
It cannot be denied though that despite the wishes of Europhile remainers it is clear that anti-EU sentiment continues to rise within the EU itself.
Certain of the remain faction keep ignoring that in their tirades.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

Germany has a Government as from about five minutes ago.

Took 5 months though to form.

Rough_Justice

Why should the UK be concerned about Euroscepticism within the EU - we will soon be out of it!
:T
Plus (bonus here) we don't have the likes of the BNP or the National Front in our parliament unlike similar do in Germany, The Netherlands, Austria, Hungary, Poland and more.

Whichever way the Brexit bus is going, it is certainly not heading towards the extremism seen elsewhere in the EU.
That EU which Europhiles here so adore that they don't want to see the UK leave it.

vivatifosi

Rough_Justice wrote: »

Don't make the mistake of taking this to mean that I think the EU is on the verge of collapse, that's not what I am saying.
It cannot be denied though that despite the wishes of Europhile remainers it is clear that anti-EU sentiment continues to rise within the EU itself.
Certain of the remain faction keep ignoring that in their tirades.

I'm a bit contrarian, but that in my book would have made staying in interesting. An opportunity for a stable UK to set the agenda a bit more.