Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Filo25

Really sad to see a few prominent Brexiters (Hsnnan, Hoey and Patterson) now trying to talk down the Good Friday Agreement, and trying to hide the fact that their new found opposition to it has nothing to do with the situation in Northern Ireland at present, and more to do with the fact that they know they have no solution to the Northern Ireland border issue with the GFA in place.

Given Northern Ireland's historical issues they would be well advised to think twice about the path they are going down (and I say that as someone who grew up within the unionist community in Northern Ireland)

Thrugelmir

Filo25 wrote: »

Really sad to see a few prominent Brexiters (Hsnnan, Hoey and Patterson) now trying to talk down the Good Friday Agreement, and trying to hide the fact that their new found opposition to it has nothing to do with the situation in Northern Ireland at present, and more to do with the fact that they know they have no solution to the Northern Ireland border issue with the GFA in place.

Given Northern Ireland's historical issues they would be well advised to think twice about the path they are going down (and I say that as someone who grew up within the unionist community in Northern Ireland)

Northern Ireland has had no Government for 13 months. The political chasm is widening.

Filo25

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Northern Ireland has had no Government for 13 months. The political chasm is widening.

Not greatly helped by the fact that the British government can't really knock heads together because they are utterly dependent on DUP votes to prop them up.

If anyone thinks a hard border in Ireland, the imposition of direct rule and ripping up the GFA is going to resolve anything in NI I would suggest that they are in for a rather horrible disappointment, that really would be spitting in the faces of the Nationalist community.

Rinoa

Filo25 wrote: »

If anyone thinks a hard border in Ireland, the imposition of direct rule and ripping up the GFA is going to resolve anything in NI I would suggest that they are in for a rather horrible disappointment, that really would be spitting in the faces of the Nationalist community.

Maybe that's what Sinn Fein are hoping far.

Make the nationalist community believe they're being badly treated, Sinn Fein vote increases. 'twas always thus.

Filo25

Rinoa wrote: »

Maybe that's what Sinn Fein are hoping far.

Make the nationalist community believe they're being badly treated, Sinn Fein vote increases. 'twas always thus.

Same for the DUP, they need the threat of each other to keep scaring their respective voters to vote for them!

Its not Sinn Fein dropping hints about looking at the GFA again though.

Thrugelmir

Filo25 wrote: »

Not greatly helped by the fact that the British government can't really knock heads together because they are utterly dependent on DUP votes to prop them up.

As you are fully aware far more complex. Republicism is alive and kicking in parts of Eire still.

Filo25

Thrugelmir wrote: »

As you are fully aware far more complex. Republicism is alive and kicking in parts of Eire still.

Of course it is, but I have yet to see how getting rid of the GFA will help resolve the situation.

Obviously growing up in NI this means a lot more to me than most, but for all its issues as a region I still find it sad that some seem willing to risk the slow and at times painful process that has been made.

vivatifosi

Filo25 wrote: »

Obviously growing up in NI this means a lot more to me than most, but for all its issues as a region I still find it sad that some seem willing to risk the slow and at times painful process that has been made.

It matters to me too. One of my relatives was injured in the troubles. I wouldn't wish that on any other family on either or neither side of the divide. We must remember what was like and be resolute in our views that history must not repeat itself.

Theophile

cogito wrote: »

Wrong. Her party received 2.5 times as many votes as AfD. AfD did not exist at the previous election but received 13% of the vote. CDU declined from 40% to 32%. Some gain.

I was talking about that poll referred to.
Not the last election result.

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gfplux

On topic.
The areas that will be damaged by Brexit.
I have updated the list with the only post about this subject

Germanys car Industry
Dutch flower growers
Rotterdam Port
Dover already damaged by large numbers of non EU immigrants landing and not moving on. Will be further damaged after Brexit.
Calais already damaged due to large number of non EU immigrants congregating in attempting to gain entry to the UK. Will be further damaged after Brexit
French wine makers
Holyhead Port
People/businesses close to the N Ireland/ROI Border
ROI
Japanese car makers in Britain
British Farmers during the withdrawal of £3 billion a year subsidies.
London Financial business.

There must be many more?