Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Herzlos

I don't think anyone has said uneducated means unintelligent.

There's plenty if other reasons for the correlation.

Moby

Rough_Justice wrote: »

Try for all of it.

It makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

No suprise there;)

Moby

Rough_Justice wrote: »

You must be because nobody called it a revelation.
It's an Irish ex-ambassador confirming what many of us here in the UK already knew.

Scraping the barrel re. sources again. Do you really think the musings of an ex Irish ambassador to Canada hold the same weight as all the contrary evidence I and other remainers are putting forward. Secondly the idea that Ireland would consider leaving the EU because of Brexit is fantastical nonsense. It demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of Irish history.
Some proper sources for you pointing out the reality:-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/09/northern-ireland-will-stay-in-single-market-after-brexit-eu-says

https://news.sky.com/story/why-does-boris-johnson-keep-on-ignoring-ireland-when-it-comes-to-brexit-11250388

http://uk.businessinsider.com/michel-barnier-david-davis-brexit-negotiations-2018-2

For the local perspective:-

http://theconversation.com/a-top-down-solution-to-the-irish-border-after-brexit-undermines-20-years-of-peacebuilding-89260

The discussions in Westminster and Brussels are far removed from the communities who live in the Irish border area. After all, 55.78% of people in Northern Ireland voted not to leave the EU in the June 2016 referendum. The hope is that the cross-community relationships that have formed in the last 20 years will be strong enough to keep fear and uncertainty from completely unravelling the progress made since the Good Friday Agreement.

Politicians discussing post-Brexit arrangements for Northern Ireland would be wise to talk to those communities most effected by the outcome, as they will make or break a successful transition, whatever that turns out to be.

gfplux

One thing we all are agreed on is Britain leaving the EU will cause damage SOMEWHERE within the present EU28. That damage and the extent of it will be depedent on THE DEAL
From memory the areas highlighted by posters are, in no particular order

Germanys car Industry
Dutch flower growers
Rotterdam Port
Dover and Calais
French wine makers
Holyhead Port
People/businesses close to the N Ireland/ROI Border
ROI
Japanese car makers in Britain

Does anyone have others that could be added to the list? I am sure there are others. I have probably missed some big ones.

Enterprise_1701C

Dover and Calais have already been severely damaged by the eu, they have invited mass uncontrolled immigration into the eu through not controlling the borders around the eu, and then they expect us to turn around and say of course we will have anyone that turns up in Calais wanting to come here.

As for French wine makers, they have no sympathy from me. The French have always had the better end of the CAP, which is 38% of the eu budget.

I, for one, have always thought that farmers should be allowed to produce what the market asks for, they should not be paid for empty fields etc, and the French (and other countries) should compete on a level playing ground. Yes, it could mean more expensive food and milk etc, but it also could mean that farmers actually farm all their land rather than being paid to leave fields fallow without reason other than subsidies.

Rough_Justice

Moby wrote: »

No suprise there;)

No surprise that it made so little sense it has disappeared into the ether; indeed.
No surprise whatsoever.
:T

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

I don't think anyone has said uneducated means unintelligent.

There's plenty if other reasons for the correlation.

So what point are some poster trying to make when they keep post the fact that people with degrees are more likely to have voted remain. I dont see that having a degree makes someone’s vote more valid that someone who hasnt.

tracey3596

"Brexit latest: British politicians travel to Brussels for Michel Barnier meetings"

The EU's chief negotiator Michel Barnier will be playing host to two sets of travelling politicians today, seeking to press the case for strong trading links after Brexit.

http://www.cityam.com/280851/brexit-latest-british-politicians-travel-brussels-michel


Good luck with those because unless the obstinate protectionism of the EU is eased at least a little it looks like wasted journeys all round.

Theophile

tracey3596 wrote: »

A view of EU divisions as seen by Saudis.

http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/article/528642/World/Europe/Seeking-post-Brexit-unity-EU-leaders-face-more-fights

It explains quite nicely just why Juncker's appointment as President isn't very democratic too.

Saudis pointing out perceived democratic deficits in the EU.

Enterprise_1701C

tracey3596 wrote: »

"Brexit latest: British politicians travel to Brussels for Michel Barnier meetings"


http://www.cityam.com/280851/brexit-latest-british-politicians-travel-brussels-michel


Good luck with those because unless the obstinate protectionism of the EU is eased at least a little it looks like wasted journeys all round.

Well, from that write up, it looks like something the eu most definitely do not want.