Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Fella

If there's going to be a two year implementation period during which NOTHING WILL CHANGE would it be possible for Remainers to stop whining for two years?

Enterprise_1701C

Fella wrote: »

If there's going to be a two year implementation period during which NOTHING WILL CHANGE would it be possible for Remainers to stop whining for two years?

They will spend that two years saying "you agreed to this, why don't we stay in".

Arklight

The Tories are fighting like rats in a bag today. Every time Rees Mogg opens his mouth it's another marginal flipped over to Labour.

Good.

Good!

cogito

kabayiri wrote: »

It works on a local level too. I used to be asked quite a bit why Northerners like me came down to London/SE, taking the good jobs away from the locals.

I understand why they asked. Protectionism is a defensive play, especially when it could impact your livelihood.

It will get worse if HS2 is ever completed. The govt's thinking is that better connections between London and the regions will help to develop the regions. Bringing London closer to Leeds and Manchester is more likely to have the opposite effect.

Law of Unintended Consequences.

Herzlos

Fella wrote: »

If there's going to be a two year implementation period during which NOTHING WILL CHANGE would it be possible for Remainers to stop whining for two years?

Not until we get a good deal. Whilst the mistake (not disaster) being delayed is good, the damage is still coming.

cogito

Arklight wrote: »

The Tories are fighting like rats in a bag today. Every time Rees Mogg opens his mouth it's another marginal flipped over to Labour.

Good.

Good!

Rubbish. Rees Mogg is now in a very influential position in the ERG. after Hammond opened his stupid gob yesterday, he had to be put in his place and not only Rees Mogg but May did it too. Hammond really should be sacked as he clearly didn't take in a word of May's Florence speech.

phillw

BarleyGB wrote: »

I think its important to recognise that these indications aren’t about today but are market driven and in most cases price in future risk. i.e. the argument that we’ve not left the EU yet hardly stands this test.

Except it does stand the test, because the government is tearing itself apart over whether the changes will be modest (which is of course bad) or catastrophic (which is of course good). Businesses therefore can't react.

cogito wrote: »

Rubbish. Rees Mogg is now in a very influentiaal position in the ERG.

God help us, he's exactly the type of person that leave voters thought they were getting rid of.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Never required a visit to travel around Europe.

Of course you didn't when we were in the EU, before the EU then that was also Pre 9/11 when countries weren't really serious about security. Post brexit you'll likely have to apply for some form of visa or notify travel in advance to enter the EU, unless we accept FOM etc. Surely you must understand this, even if you think it's a small price to pay..

Fella wrote: »

If there's going to be a two year implementation period during which NOTHING WILL CHANGE would it be possible for Remainers to stop whining for two years?

Your point is logically flawed because for 40 years levers have been whining even though NOTHING DID CHANGE. With flawed thinking like that, I guess you voted to leave.

cogito wrote: »

It will get worse if HS2 is ever completed. The govt's thinking is that better connections between London and the regions will help to develop the regions. Bringing London closer to Leeds and Manchester is more likely to have the opposite effect.

Law of Unintended Consequences.

And yet you still argue for brexit, strange.

Fella

Sterling surges to $1.42
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/pound-sterling-surges-post-brexit-high-strong-jobs-figures-employment-exchange-rate-forex-a8176176.html

Unemployment falls to to 1.44million
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42802526

FTSE around record highs:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2017/dec/29/ftse-100-record-high-markets-celebrate-boom-year-asia-euro-gold-dollar-business-live

0.5% growth in #GDP in Q4 2017, up from 0.4% in Q3
http://!!!!!!/DPLj30i0OXM

Meanwhile in France we have Nutella riots & a plague of rats:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42826028

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/giant-savage-rats-jump-throat-11892376

Time for Frexit?
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15886809.France_would_have_probably_said_Yes_to_Frexit__admits_Macron/

Fella

phillw wrote: »

Your point is logically flawed because for 40 years levers have been whining even though NOTHING DID CHANGE

Wrong. Brexiteers during that time were asking for a referendum. Not the same as simply asking for their own way. And certainly not the same as whining about the RESULT of a referendum that you lost which is what many Remainers continue to do.

phillw wrote: »

I guess you voted to leave.

You guess correctly.

westernpromise

Fella wrote: »

Sterling surges to $1.42
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/pound-sterling-surges-post-brexit-high-strong-jobs-figures-employment-exchange-rate-forex-a8176176.html

That's infuriating. I have a stash of $-denominated shares and this is knackering the returns. Maybe use it as a window to buy some more.