Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Honey_Badger

Arklight wrote: »

Oh for goodness sake. What would you lot be saying if the Spanish had been occupying Hayling Island for hundreds of years, and using it as a military staging post to choke off Britain's ability to get to France?

You wouldn't like it would you? Well that's how the Spanish feel.

Maybe look at all the little scraps of Empire that remain around the globe and reflect on how many people Britain killed to get them and you might start to understand where Britain fits in the world. It's quite different to the Brexit University view.

If Spain was so concerned about territorial integrity. Why are they holding on to several "Gibraltars" along the North African coastline?

Ceuta and Melilla are the two most contentious with Morocco asking for sovereignty of them. Why don't the Spanish worry about how the Moroccans feel?

mayonnaise

Arklight wrote: »

Brexit thugs' death threat to Tory MP who led push for democratic vote.

It's a common theme isn't it.
Even of this forum, you can feel the anger, bile and blind hate dripping from the posts of our resident brextremists.
One would have thought they would be a slightly happier bunch after "they won and we lost".

mailmannz

I think your post is a pretty good example that there is hatred on both sides mayo.

Of course lets not discount the possibility these threats are being over blown/down played/created by both sides of the camp to bolster their base and keep them in the game.

Tromking

mayonnaise wrote: »

It's a common theme isn't it.
Even of this forum, you can feel the anger, bile and blind hate dripping from the posts of our resident brextremists.
One would have thought they would be a slightly happier bunch after "they won and we lost".

It's a characteristic of both sides I've noticed. Even you betray your true feelings when you hyperbolically describe some on here as having feelings of anger, bile and dripping with hate. You don't fool me with your flippant posting style, Brexit has cut you to the core and you're royally p*ssed off about it.
Oh, before I forget, just been announced that foreign firms floating on the LSE is at a 5 year high. This Brexit is a killer.

mayonnaise

mailmannz wrote: »

I think your post is a pretty good example that there is hatred on both sides mayo.

Of course lets not discount the possibility these threats are being over blown/down played/created by both sides of the camp to bolster their base and keep them in the game.

I have no doubts there is nastiness on both sides.
Where the line is crossed however, is when national newspapers appeal to 'silence' anyone not towing the 'brexit is awesome' line.

Time to silence Brexit whingers

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/720116/Brexit-Britain-European-Union-Remainers
Headlines inciting to violence mixed with a not very educated audience is bound to turn ugly. We already had a politician 'silenced' for her views. We surely don't need more.

System

I see the Daily Mail have cancelled their association and support of democracy this morning.

mayonnaise

Tromking wrote: »

It's a characteristic of both sides I've noticed. Even you betray your true feelings when you hyperbolically describe some on here as having feelings of anger, bile and dripping with hate. You don't fool me with your flippant posting style, Brexit has cut you to the core and you're royally p*ssed off about it.

Wasn't trying to fool anyone with my posting style, it's just the way I write.
Obviously, I was disappointed that the country I love is going on the brexit path, but 'cut to the core' is a bit over the top, mate.
Also, I strongly believe the brexit we'll end up with won't p*ss me off as much as it will p*ss off the rabid brexiteers on here who still dream about WTO.

Tromking wrote: »

Oh, before I forget, just been announced that foreign firms floating on the LSE is at a 5 year high. This Brexit is a killer.

Yes, that's what happens when a weak pound boosts the earnings of London-listed companies with international profits.

Arklight

Honey_Badger wrote: »

If Spain was so concerned about territorial integrity. Why are they holding on to several "Gibraltars" along the North African coastline?

Ceuta and Melilla are the two most contentious with Morocco asking for sovereignty of them. Why don't the Spanish worry about how the Moroccans feel?

As part of the EU, the Spanish will probably be able to hold on to their North African conquests for the foreseeable future.


The UK is going to discover that being a small island trying to occupy part of a regional superpower isn't especially tenable. Gibraltar will be part of a power sharing agreement whether Little Englanders, its population of 34,000 tax avoiders, employees of dodgy online gambling companies and red faced ex pats like it or not.

Honey_Badger

Arklight wrote: »

As part of the EU, the Spanish will probably be able to hold on to their North African conquests for the foreseeable future.

Ah I see so in your view as long as a country is in the EU it can do whatever it likes. Whilst an independent UK has to bow to the EU superstate.

Arklight wrote: »

The UK is going to discover that being a small island trying to occupy part of a regional superpower isn't especially tenable. Gibraltar will be part of a power sharing agreement whether Little Englanders, its population of 34,000 tax avoiders, employees of dodgy online gambling companies and red faced ex pats like it or not.

You must have a different idea to me as to what a "small island" is, personally I wouldn't have classed the worlds 9th largest island as small.

I'm quite glad you indicate that the EU is a regional superpower, although I'm a little surprised you seem to paint it as a malevolent one that won't allow Gibraltar any form of self-determination.

To me a desire to become an economic and military superpower is one of the EU's least attractive aspects. Although they're going to have to beef up their defence spending to do that.

I'd prefer to see a UK independent of such superpowers. Not one thats the 28th state of an EU superstate, to me that's as objectionable as being the 51st state of the USA.

wunferall

It might be no surprise, but breaking news this morning.
EU gives formal green light to new Brexit phase

“EU leaders agree to move on to the second phase of Brexit talks,” European Council President Donald Tusk tweeted during a Brussels summit that he was chairing.

“Congratulations PM @Theresa,” he added

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-phase/eu-gives-formal-green-light-to-new-brexit-phase-idUKKBN1E918R?il=0