Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

cogito

Conrad wrote: »

It's time to fully prepare for WTO, the system huge amounts of trade are done under perfectly well.

The Spanish will soon want to get talks going if they see us in talks with the Israelis, S Africans and Moroccans for fresh produce which we can remove all tariffs on. Core exporters to the UK would indeed be banging down the doors of Govt.

Let's take all money off the table after March 2019 and see how Barnier and Merkel sweat.
Let's intimate we will agree with Trump and insist all EU nations pay 2% to NATO.

Remember Remain said our leaving could cause a global recession. If true, why would the EU want to take the chance of a hard Brexit?

May and Davis are too placatory, stroking the Emperors ring finger won't cut it.

The DT is reporting that EU leaders will demand ECJ jurisdiction over the rights of EU citizens in the UK. In that case, we should simply tell them that until this is taken off the table, there can be no more discussions about money or anything else.

Arklight

The Brexiteers on this thread appear absolutely panic stricken.

mayonnaise

Conrad wrote: »

Remember Remain said our leaving could cause a global recession.

No I don't remember that.
Recession in the UK, yes.
Not global.
We're not that important.

What I do remember though is your lot predicting the EU would be falling over themselves to offer us the best ever deal. What happened to that?

mayonnaise

setmefree2 wrote: »

http://www.politico.eu/article/brexiteers-fear-swiss-trap-deal-for-britain/

setmefree2 wrote: »

http://www.cityam.com/273884/debate-plans-divide-existing-wto-quotas-into-eu-put-other

Yay. More links.
But shouldn't these be posted somewhere on Discussion Time?

setmefree2 wrote: »

Ok I'm going to leave you guys to it. I'm off to the Discussion Time Board.

ukcarper

Arklight wrote: »

The Brexiteers on this thread appear absolutely panic stricken.

I think it's you who should be worried as the way EU are going it will be a hard brexit on WTO rules, which will be no good for UK and EU.

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

It's time to fully prepare for WTO, the system huge amounts of trade are done under perfectly well.

The Spanish will soon want to get talks going if they see us in talks with the Israelis, S Africans and Moroccans for fresh produce which we can remove all tariffs on. Core exporters to the UK would indeed be banging down the doors of Govt.

Let's take all money off the table after March 2019 and see how Barnier and Merkel sweat.
Let's intimate we will agree with Trump and insist all EU nations pay 2% to NATO.

Remember Remain said our leaving could cause a global recession. If true, why would the EU want to take the chance of a hard Brexit?

May and Davis are too placatory, stroking the Emperors ring finger won't cut it.

So you don't understand how NATO works either? Or trade?

Not having a go, there's lots I don't understand. I'm just trying to set expectations.

System

ukcarper wrote: »

I think it's you who should be worried as the way EU are going it will be a hard brexit on WTO rules, which will be no good for UK and EU.

Shouldn't we all be worried then?

ukcarper

Joeskeppi wrote: »

Shouldn't we all be worried then?

I would agree some wouldn't but they way things are going that's what's going to happen and I get the impression that's what EU want. Some people here seem to think that if we fail to negotiate a deal we won't leave I don't believe that is the case.

economic

its pretty simple. if the EU dont play ball we exit the hard way, dont pay them anything and can freely negotiate trade deals with other countries. watch how germans economy collapses as we currently import 5bn eur of goods from them net. then they will coming begging to us.

Filo25

If we get a Hard Brexit under WTO terms then I'll make a prediction that we'll be on our way back into the EU on worse terms than we are on now within 10 years or so.

ukcarper wrote: »

I would agree some wouldn't but they way things are going that's what's going to happen and I get the impression that's what EU want. Some people here seem to think that if we fail to negotiate a deal we won't leave I don't believe that is the case.

The only way our leaving the EU could be reversed is if we have a second referendum, its certainly not something politicians can reverse themselves, and public opinion hasn't moved nearly enough (yet) to justify a second referendum, so for now I would agree with you, of course public opinion can be a fluid thing.