Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

posh*spice wrote: »

I love how Remoaners only care about money. It has to be clear to even the village idiot that the EU is undemocratic.

The EU is more democratic than the UK.

posh*spice

ukcarper wrote: »

So £57Bn to £74Bn depending on whether we get rebait back and if EU spending in UK continues, I suspect a lot of see that as fair.

!!!!!! - you know there are Brits dying on trollies in our hospitals? And you want to give the EU £74 billion to save a few banking jobs (cos really that's what this is all about)

Also, The EU want the transition to allow FoM and that the people who come to the UK get to stay and their familes. That would create a massive stampede just as immigration has started to slow. 2 years of mass migration. It would be a nuts thing for any politician to agree to.

posh*spice

Yes who cares about the NHS and people all around Britain in bed and breakfast- lets give the EU billions - they are worth it...

I tell you what, let's not....

Moby

posh*spice wrote: »

!!!!!! - you know there are Brits dying on trollies in our hospitals? And you want to give the EU £74 billion to save a few banking jobs (cos really that's what this is all about)

Also, The EU want the transition to allow FoM and that the people who come to the UK get to stay and their familes. That would create a massive stampede just as immigration has started to slow. 2 years of mass migration. It would be a nuts thing for any politician to agree to.

Just beginning to dawn on you that the 27 are not going to make it easy for us. We are going to be worse off financially and we are begging for them to give us a good deal to minimise the damage and they will name their price for that and we will pay it. It's pitiful. I've never known this country's reputation internationally to be so bad. Meanwhile we carry on suffering austerity for good measure as well. Well done Brexiteers!

posh*spice

You know, my OH has always been puzzled by Brits feelings towards the Royal Family- allowing them so many liberties.

Remainers they remind me of Royalists - they allow the EU of so many liberties. £75 billion?????? What have you been drinking cos I want some.

Filo25

Personally I won't get too excited about any loss of sovereignty to the EU at a time when I think the front benches of both our government and main party of opposition shows levels of incompetence that almost defy belief.

I also certainly won't be crowing if we end up paying a hefty exit bill, I may view it as probably a better outcome than WTO (depending on how big the bill ends up being), but ultimately it will bring fewer economic benefits than current membership and cost more in the short-medium term.

Moby

posh*spice wrote: »

You know, my OH has always been puzzled by Brits feelings towards the Royal Family- allowing them so many liberties.

Remainers they remind me of Royalists - they allow the EU of so many liberties. £75 billion?????? What have you been drinking cos I want some.

Every dog on the street knows how bad it will be to leave without a deal so we will pay as much as they ask because we have to retrieve what we can from this mess. You I nor anyone else can change that despite your macho language. We will roll over and pay the price. You are naive if you think this is a negotiation.

posh*spice

Let's give our NHS £350 million a week - let's not not said Remoaners- let's give it to EU:beer: to save a few city jobs :beer:

ukcarper

Filo25 wrote: »

Personally I won't get too excited about any loss of sovereignty to the EU at a time when I think the front benches of both our government and main party of opposition shows levels of incompetence that almost defy belief.

I also certainly won't be crowing if we end up paying a hefty exit bill, I may view it as probably a better outcome than WTO (depending on how big the bill ends up being), but ultimately it will bring fewer economic benefits than current membership and cost more in the short-medium term.

We won't know the cost of being on WTO rules until it happens, although we will probably be worse off I doubt it will be to the level most remainers on here think.

Filo25

ukcarper wrote: »

We won't know the cost of being on WTO rules until it happens, although we will probably be worse of I doubt it will be to the level most remainers on here think.

I think that's probably true to an extent, some talk it up too much, it wouldn't be economic armageddon but it would be debilitating to an economy that isn't exactly in great health at present at a time when the BoE just doesn't have much more ammunition in monetary policy to throw at any future slowdown.

We also seem to have made precious little preparation for the scenario at present, I couldn't really claim that the British government seems to have made the best use of its opening 7 months of negotiations, it just seems that we weren't really ready to invoke Article 50 last March.