Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

Conrad

Arklight wrote: »

We are part of Europe, whether you like it or not,




access to the world's biggest market. All shot to hell.

That's right we're part of Europe, I'm European, not sure what point you think you're making


What is all shot to hell? Trade terms will be barely altered,. I'd hate to see your reaction to a genuinely worrying event.

gfplux

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I'm 33 and a higher rate taxpayer.

What's my failure/problem in your eyes?

That very nice. Is your industry/profession effected by the Brexit Crisis.

Conrad

Arklight wrote: »

No of course not. Like all Leave supporters you see nothing other than what you want to see.


Aircraft carriers with imaginary planes, bendy bananas once more and a bold future of sailing off to the Commonwealth to collaborate with a lot of countries who can't stand us because we put their grandparents in concentration camps.

Woe, woe, it will all be so awful, however will we manage steeped in such a stupefying self-inflicted gloom, all is lost

Conrad

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

Other nations don't have foreign secretary's trying to offend at every opportunity. Other nations don't secure major concessions, arguably better than those given to anyone else, and then have a PM come back demanding more to heal internal party divides.

Need I go on? You must surely be able to see that from the perspective of the EU, the UK is being a massive pain in the a**e? Do you think in negotiating CETA that Canada behaved like the UK is currently?

That's right, we're a dreadful lot, obviously with incompetent politicians, ridiculed, a laughing stock, fat, drunk, wallowing in credit card debt, unequal, poorly educated, dreadful at maths & literacy, carp internet, overworked to pay overpriced rents, dire health service, gloomy weather with the unhappiest most stressed out workers in Europe.


Remind me why 3 m EU nationals chose to come set up home here with many worried about their right to remain in this turd chamber?

gfplux

vivatifosi wrote: »

Everyone in this country will be affected by Brexit in one way or another.

Some like yourself will be affected as British ex pats.
Some will work for overseas companies with locations in the UK.
Some will work for UK companies who rely on inputs from the EU.
Some will work in industries whose regulatory framework is linked to the EU.
Some like me will work in local or national government, which relies on a healthy economy to pay our wages.
Some will be on benefits, which the government has to be able to afford.
Some will be thinking about retirement and moving overseas, but can't finalise their plans.
Some will be concerned about the rights of their families currently living in Europe.
Some will be from an EU state living in the UK, wondering what their rights will be.
Some will be at school, wondering if they'll get a place on the Erasmus course they wanted.
And that's before we consume energy or food, or price up holidays in Europe and elsewhere overseas.

There are probably areas I've forgotten, but in short pretty much everyone is affected.

Anyhow, did you get to watch France v Luxembourg at the beach? I thought that the latter did rather well.

Thanks for the list.
I prefer immigrant to expat.
I think it would be very interesting to hear if any one is noticing if the Brexit Crisis is effecting them now 14/15 months on from the referendum.
Sadly missed the footy. However a great if not even a historic result for Luxembourg. Getting a result like that away from home can only normally be dreamed of.
It's almost enough to forget the Brexit Crisis for five minutes,

gfplux

setmefree2 wrote: »

Some will be working for uk exporting companies that are benefiting from a weaker sterling

Some will be working for uk companies that are benefiting from being more competitive than foreign companies because of a cheaper pound

Some will be working in the tourist industry that is benefiting from the cheaper pound

Some will be invested in US stocks and will be benefiting from the cheaper pound

Some will be invested in Uk stocks which have benefited massively from a cheaper pound

Some will be getting higher wages already because they don't have to compete with foreign labour pushing down wages

Some will be buying property cheaper than they might have done

That sounds wonderful for those benefiting from the Brexit Crisis but are any of them posters on this thread?

andrewf75

Matt_L wrote: »

There are people in this very thread saying exactly that, Post 41 for example but there are more..

Thanks, that is the first I have seen
Noted.

Conrad

holidaysforme wrote: »

The whole thing is beyond embarrassing. We're an utter laughing stock.:mad:

We're a laughing stock whereas Italians fighting in Parliament is dignified, France deporting entire Roma communities without trial is cool and Germans fiddling their motor car emissions is a win for all concerned. Loving those animal husbandry standards and contaminated eggs too.


I spent my holidays in Europe, everyone was friendly and only one person, an old Swedish lady felt Brexit was a bad idea.

Rusty_Shackleton

Conrad wrote: »

That's right, we're a dreadful lot, obviously with incompetent politicians, ridiculed, a laughing stock, fat, drunk, wallowing in credit card debt, unequal, poorly educated, dreadful at maths & literacy, carp internet, overworked to pay overpriced rents, dire health service, gloomy weather with the unhappiest most stressed out workers in Europe.

Remind me why 3 m EU nationals chose to come set up home here with many worried about their right to remain in this turd chamber?

The main reason being that an awful lot of people speak English to some degree or another so the UK is an easy place to live with regards to language barriers. Then there's the fact that since international business is generally done in English, learning or improving your English (as a non-native speaker) is a great skill.... living here for a few years would give the vast majority of people an excellent level of English that they can then take into other jobs elsewhere. That's before we consider that the UK government hasn't implemented FoM controls that other countries do, so we've made it easier to move here than some other countries.

As for your list of flaws, I don't the UK is an awful country, far from it. What I find poor is things like homelessness in such a rich country, the appalling standard of politicians across the board etc. There are many things that other countries do better than us (and far worse), but when I criticise the UK it's through a belief that we can and should do better.

Conrad

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

If we're doing anecdotal evidence I've not met one leave to remainer, multiple going the other way though. Not a troll or a lie, genuinely. Perhaps where we live impacts the churn.

The main refrain I come across whether people voted Remain or Leave is they just want to get on with it now. The last thing they want is another divisive referendum and the extended uncertainty this would deliver, re-hashing all the old arguments.