Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

TrickyTree83

Theophile wrote: »

So we have a £25 billion trade deficit with Germany.
Germany's total exports are around $1.3 trillion annually.
Really, we're not that important.

I had this very same argument with Hamish, it's not about the whole, it's about the context of the changes that will take place.

We cannot just take headline figures as you've done and conclude there will be no impact on EU states, there will be an impact on every single member. Those net contributors will be hit the hardest too.

TrickyTree83

Theophile wrote: »

Our net contribution is around 3-4 billion?
That's good to know.

Sorry that appears to have been wrong. The Beeb eh..

Sapphire

Moby wrote: »

National sovereignty is so 20th century. the world is getting smaller, national boundaries need to be reduced, (sensibly of course). Regarding freedom....I do like freedom, especially the freedom of movement the EU gave me.

Obviously, the people of many nations disagree with you – and empires are so 19th century, after all. We got rid of a few empires – now, a few decades later, one is being forced onto the nations of Europe again, this one run by globalists only interested in their own personal wealth. And the naive fall for it through brainwashing and propaganda. Unbelievable!

Conrad

Moby wrote: »

National sovereignty is so 20th century. the world is getting smaller, national boundaries need to be reduced, (sensibly of course). Regarding freedom....I do like freedom, especially the freedom of movement the EU gave me.

Brexit Britain will be more international whilst co-operating very well and trading with the EU.


No need for nonsense hyperbole


Again Remainers exhibit this lack of vision and insight.

Conrad

Theophile wrote: »

So we have a £25 billion trade deficit with Germany.
Germany's total exports are around $1.3 trillion annually.
Really, we're not that important.

Remember the great fuss in UK over a small number of jobs at Port Talbot?


Keeping that reaction in mind, imagine the impacts of mass disruption to German sales in the context of the following;


Deloitte Germany - 'hit to German carmakers from a “no-deal”, will be traumatic'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/06/22/europe-waking-impact-hard-brexit/


"We shouldn't forget that 750,000 jobs in Germany depend on the trade with the United Kingdom",
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39522265


Combustion engine ban puts 600,000 German jobs at risk:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-germany-emissions-idUKKBN1A319I

The drop in sterling is hurting German exports to UK, whilst UK exports boom;

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-23/swiss-cheesemaker-emmi-warns-brexit-is-hitting-dairy-business


POLAND SEEKS A TRILLION EUROS FROM GERMANY;


https://www.thelocal.de/20170904/poland


German industrial orders fell unexpectedly on feeble domestic demand while appetite from abroad was flat,


http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-germany-economy-orders/german-factory-orders-fall-on-weak-domestic-demand-idUKKCN1BH18G?il=0

kabayiri

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Sorry that appears to have been wrong. The Beeb eh..

So how come our net contributions have ramped up since the GFC, and yet we are one of the main countries creating and providing jobs for the recent accession states.

Aren't we putting in a lot more than others in reality.

Shouldn't a pointless state like Luxembourg be charged more?

Or equally, Poland benefits massively, so they should front up a lot of money for the privileges.

Zero_Gravitas

Conrad wrote: »

Brexit Britain will be more international whilst co-operating very well and trading with the EU.


No need for nonsense hyperbole


Again Remainers exhibit this lack of vision and insight.

No it won't. It will be smaller, more insular and less international.

No need for nonsense fantasies.

Again Brexit lemmings exhibit this lack of grasp of reality.

kabayiri

There's about 7 billion people on this planet.

I'd say for all bar about 1 billion, the world is just the same size as it was last year.

This "world getting smaller" is just marketing speak for the lucky minority.

Try taking 50 of your mates and pitching up tents on Cameron's lawn, with a banner saying "world is smaller now Dave". See how long it takes for him to call security and kick you off his land.

Pundits and politicians may talk the talk, but they don't walk it.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ilovehouses wrote: »

You do try. Only a pedant would've taken my mutterings as a statement of fact. I look forward to you, as the Captain Mainwaring forum defender of the truth, issuing such advice to those whose opinions dressed as fact you agree with. Ha ha ha, you are funny; "pedant" says he. *chuckle.*
If you mean that I try to correct your continued (and usually poor) attempts at propaganda and your persistent use of half-truths then yes I try, Private Pike. (That last since as usual you persist in derogation.)



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-negotiations-latest-mps-launch-inquiry-uk-government-strategy-minimal-progress-eu-juncker-a7946471.html
Ah, you're believing media again? The (not-so) Independent too?
:rotfl: Try looking on the official website. You're again trusting the media and taking their opinion as gospel. Everything is on the website: http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/exiting-the-european-union-committee/
The members of this committee (listed for you inside) "were formally appointed on Monday 11 September 2017." (following the GE, naturally, the first being arranged in 2016.) The role of this committee? "The Exiting the European Union Committee is appointed by the House of Commons to examine the expenditure, administration and policy of the Department for Exiting the European Union and matters falling within the responsibilities of associated public bodies."
Now I realise your preponderance for being a little "easy" with the truth but explain if you would how a committee doing what it was set up to do is somehow newsworthy now rather than when the committee was set up over a year ago - unless it is just to promote an anti-Brexit agenda?

Respect your opinion and everything but you appear to inhabit a parallel universe. In your eyes though so does almost everything Brexit-related unless it fits your pro-EU agenda so at least you are consistent.

You might also like to take a look at those making up the committee.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Theophile wrote: »

Is it? Hadn't noticed.
But then again, I don't have my finger on the pro-EU contingency's pulse like you do.
My guess is that Theresa will make some earth shattering revelation in the vein of "We are leaving the EU, but not leaving Europe". Stay tuned.

When the tactics of Europhiles and/or remainers becomes so pronounced and also increases in ridiculous interpretations as is currently the case, everybody notices.
Finger on the pulse? No, it does appear that you would instead prefer a boot and positioned elsewhere.
At least you appear not to believe

ilovehouses wrote: »

I think something is 'up' - May is having to intervene directly

. :T