Rights of adult kids in family home

Red-Squirrel_2

MITSTM, it must be a full moon or something, because I agree with you! I think its appalling that young adults don't get the full rights and entitlements of adulthood until 25 or even 35. If we've decided that an 18 year old is an adult who should be working and paying taxes and subject to all the same rules as adults, then 18 year olds should have all the same rights and entitlements too.

moneyistooshorttomention

Nah - the full moon was a couple of days ago:rotfl:

But I guess we all know that the reason the Government changed the goalposts on not regarding people as fully adult until 35 was in order to find a way of getting out of paying full housing benefit due (if need be) until some way after it's obviously logically due in everyone else's opinion.

The one thing that intrigues me is how the Government, seemingly arbitrarily, picked the age of 35 out of the hat as the one they would deem to be "fully adult status". Why not 18? Why not 21? At worst case analysis - then why not 25 (ie when employers have no choice but to pay full adult wages)?

The excuses for choosing 35 instead have gone way over my head as to what they might be...:cool:

I must admit that I would be interested to hear the Governments justifications/excuses as to why it's 35 they "picked out of the hat". I suppose we should all be grateful they didn't choose 60 or 65 (ie retirement ages) instead.....

Red-Squirrel_2

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

I suppose we should all be grateful they didn't choose 60 or 65 (ie retirement ages) instead.....

I'm not quite 35 yet. I definitely feel too old to be living in a houseshare if I lose my job though!

moneyistooshorttomention

Personally - the only type of "houseshare" basically that ever crossed my mind was of the "commune" type variety and not a conventional "houseshare" type set-up of just a few people.

I guess I did live in a rather "commune" type way briefly in my 20s. But I've never lived in a "houseshare" type set-up and wouldnt. It was "grotty bedsit" territory on my own until some way into my 20s, followed by public sector flat on my own until 30s:eek:, followed by buying own house at last in my 30s (early 30s:cool:).

Winter_Phoenix

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

I'm not quite 35 yet. I definitely feel too old to be living in a houseshare if I lose my job though!

On spareroom.com, there are currently people in my area looking for houseshares in their 40s, 50s, and in one case 60s.

Frightening thought!

silvercar

The one thing that intrigues me is how the Government, seemingly arbitrarily, picked the age of 35 out of the hat as the one they would deem to be "fully adult status". Why not 18? Why not 21? At worst case analysis - then why not 25 (ie when employers have no choice but to pay full adult wages)?

Just to play devil's advocate, it could be to mimic the non-benefit reliant sector. It is common for independent young adults to only be able to afford a room in a shared house as they don't earn sufficient to pay the rent on a self contained place. So the government feels that it should not be subsidising through HB people to have a more affluent life style than those paying their own way.

Red-Squirrel_2

silvercar wrote: »

Just to play devil's advocate, it could be to mimic the non-benefit reliant sector. It is common for independent young adults to only be able to afford a room in a shared house as they don't earn sufficient to pay the rent on a self contained place. So the government feels that it should not be subsidising through HB people to have a more affluent life style than those paying their own way.

How many 34 year olds do you know that live in house shares? Outside of London, because London is an anomaly.

I don't know any, they all rent a whole property or own their homes.

Since when is 34 a 'young adult' anyway? Not that I'm complaining at the description but, you know, I've got grey hairs and crow's feet, let's be realistic here!

moneyistooshorttomention

Winter_Phoenix wrote: »

On spareroom.com, there are currently people in my area looking for houseshares in their 40s, 50s, and in one case 60s.

Frightening thought!

I've read about this - and it drives shivers up my spine to think anyone could get to that age and not be settled in a reasonable home still:(

The thought of trying to get on and "have a proper Life" whilst the roof over head is so insecure/unsatisfactory still at that sort of age is horrifying.

moneyistooshorttomention

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

How many 34 year olds do you know that live in house shares? Outside of London, because London is an anomaly.

I don't know any, they all rent a whole property or own their homes.

Since when is 34 a 'young adult' anyway? Not that I'm complaining at the description but, you know, I've got grey hairs and crow's feet, let's be realistic here!

Am now trying to rack my brains and think if I've ever known anyone over 30 that didnt own their own home (though often in conjunction, it has to be said, with a spouse or partner). Errrrm....errrrrm....there was one guy older than me that was renting a bedsit that I knew of back in my 20s - but he was of a distinctly "hippy" bent. There was another guy that fell into the same category that was living in his father house - ditto distinctly "hippy" bent.

I can't honestly think of anyone else I've known ever that was either renting or sharing with parents still after about the age of 30 - and my home area is a pretty dear one (not London).

Really the only other people that come to mind in an older age group that didnt have their own (bought) homes after about that age were those sharing the rented bedsit houses and rented public sector accommodation with me - but no-one at all that I "knew of myself" basically (apart from those 2 hippyish guys - with no fixed jobs).

EDIT; Just recalled another older hippyish guy I knew somewhat after I bought first house. He rented a one bedroom (Council) flat on his own.

Moral of the story - I simply can't think of anyone at all that lived in a houseshare over, say, mid-20s.

Mojisola

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

I've read about this - and it drives shivers up my spine to think anyone could get to that age and not be settled in a reasonable home still:(

One group it has affected are divorced parents.

If you are a youngish parent and not the parent-with-care, it can be very hard to make the money stretch to rent your own place while also paying child maintenance.