Rights of adult kids in family home

fishpond

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

Firstly, there are lots of people who work really hard but never see a lot of money for it. People in absolutely crucial jobs.

Secondly, renting in Europe is better than renting here. The private landlords don't see a BTL as a short to medium term investment or as an alternative to selling their own home in order to make a bit of extra cash. They see it as a long term business, and the tenancies are longer, more secure, and more flexible. Not like here where you can find yourself having to move every 6 months and where you're incredibly lucky to find a landlord who'll let you paint a room, or have a pet.

I have just had tenants with pets for 9 months, never again.
Just short of an £8000 total bill for me.
I love animals, always have, always will.
I blame the owners.
No second chances, I can't afford it.
Shooting fellow pet owners in the foot springs to mind.

volare11512

Cakeguts wrote: »

I can but they all have silly jobs and are still dreaming of the big break which is not now going to come. Most people grow up and get a proper job in something that pays the bills but some don't and it is these people who live in shared accommodation until they are really quite old.

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

How many 34 year olds do you know that live in house shares? Outside of London, because London is an anomaly.

I don't know any, they all rent a whole property or own their homes.

Since when is 34 a 'young adult' anyway? Not that I'm complaining at the description but, you know, I've got grey hairs and crow's feet, let's be realistic here!

thorsoak wrote: »

Are you working full-time? Can you improve your qualifications? If not, how about taking on a second job? Or a third job? I know that things were different to when we were young, but both OH and I had two jobs each and were also studying with OU when we needed to improve qualifications and both worked in the local pub at weekends when we needed to save for furniture.

But there again, we didn't have the expense of paying for holidays/days/nights/weekends away every couple of months - we weren't considered odd or mean with money because all of our friends were in the same boat.

I am in my MSc year where I have struggled to live on 3k (after payibg the fees!). I will be going into a paid PhD next month which is low wage, but is what I want to do in life. Hopefully I can earn a larger wage after. Had no time for other jobs as I have to commute 2 hours each way for uni (could not afford to move!).

I choose not to work during my degree because as a mature student it's was my last opportunity to get qualifications. paid off though... got a first in geology and onto a MSc + PhD.

Btw I haven't had a holiday in 5 years.... Only time I went abroad was through self funded research work where I funded it though student grants!

As previously mentioned... those who do not have a helping hand are at a serious disadvantage.

moneyistooshorttomention

There's no doubt you have worked hard Volare.:T

Hope you get your just reward for it:)

Cakeguts

By silly jobs I mean those that come out of places like music colleges having been told that they will have a portfolio career and who are still doing the working in a shop two days a week, 2 hours music teaching on a Saturday, and working in a bar/ restaurant for most of the rest of the time while waiting for a big break. They are mostly still living in shared accommodation in their late 20s early 30s. Even with a helping hand from parents they don't earn enough to pay for a even a small mortgage. The sensible ones realise that the big break has a sell by date and theirs have past it and get a different full time job but the others hang on often for years and years bouncing along the bottom of the jobs market. These people all have degrees.

Red-Squirrel_2

thorsoak wrote: »

But there again, we didn't have the expense of paying for holidays/days/nights/weekends away every couple of months - we weren't considered odd or mean with money because all of our friends were in the same boat.

I don't understand at all why its assumed that people who are struggling must be wasting their money.

I earn a reasonable wage, I still can't afford to go on holiday at all this year never mind every few months! Seriously, wages have really stagnated while the cost of living and housing has risen a lot.

Red-Squirrel_2

Cakeguts wrote: »

By silly jobs I mean those that come out of places like music colleges having been told that they will have a portfolio career and who are still doing the working in a shop two days a week, 2 hours music teaching on a Saturday, and working in a bar/ restaurant for most of the rest of the time while waiting for a big break. They are mostly still living in shared accommodation in their late 20s early 30s. Even with a helping hand from parents they don't earn enough to pay for a even a small mortgage. The sensible ones realise that the big break has a sell by date and theirs have past it and get a different full time job but the others hang on often for years and years bouncing along the bottom of the jobs market. These people all have degrees.

Be a shame for all of us if there were no musicians working in the lower paid end of the market after the age of 30 though.

tonycottee

AFF8879 wrote: »

The points around the OP needing to be independent and get on with their own life have already been made- the discussion has moved on. So, rather than trying to jump on a bandwagon which has already departed with rude unhelpful comments maybe try adding something constructive

But they got to use the word snowflake. Anybody that uses that word is obviously a hard worker and has never complained about anything.