Rights of adult kids in family home

comeandgo

Move out and give your poor mum a break. I could not imagine anything worse than my two adult daughters living with me.

always_sunny

aldridge99 wrote: »

My question is do we have any rights? we both have a full rent history via our banks, but do not have a written tenancy agreement as its just always been our home and was only given to our mother as she had 2 kids under 16 at the time.

What about your mother right?
If both of you are grown up I would have booted you already if you didn't like the new arrangement!
Seriously, unless you have a reason then you shouldn't even clog the social housing and just find a private rental and move out already!

rachel230

Whatever the moral ins and outs, legally the situation is open to interpretation.
Ironically the fact that the OP doesn`t have a contract is to her advantage in this situation.
A contract clarifies (or should!) the terms e.g. how long contract is for, terms of notice etc.
In the absence of a contract, the history and behaviour can be taken into account. The fact that the OP has lived there for years, considered it her home for years, paid towards the rent, her mother fully accepting that it has been the OP`s home, accepted the rent etc.
Did she pay weekly? Monthly? If she did have to leave, the paid rent cycle could well be taken into account when working out a fair period of notice.
It depends how strongly the OP feels as to whether she wants to fight this, (or leave quietly and find somewhere else to rent), and if she does want to fight, then to find a housing advisor who could fight on the above principles which are legitimate ones.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do OP.

Jenniefour

rachel230 wrote: »

If you can prove that you have both being paying rent and have considered that your home for many years, you may well have rights. It is not cut and dried.
Shelter is the best place to advise you.

Paying rent to parents in the family home is not rent in the usual sense of the word, it's normal board for responsible wage earning adult children. No legal right to stay whatsoever. Parents can hoof out and change locks if they so wish.

Jenniefour

rachel230 wrote: »

Whatever the moral ins and outs, legally the situation is open to interpretation.
Ironically the fact that the OP doesn`t have a contract is to her advantage in this situation.
A contract clarifies (or should!) the terms e.g. how long contract is for, terms of notice etc.
In the absence of a contract, the history and behaviour can be taken into account. The fact that the OP has lived there for years, considered it her home for years, paid towards the rent, her mother fully accepting that it has been the OP`s home, accepted the rent etc.
Did she pay weekly? Monthly? If she did have to leave, the paid rent cycle could well be taken into account when working out a fair period of notice.
It depends how strongly the OP feels as to whether she wants to fight this, (or leave quietly and find somewhere else to rent), and if she does want to fight, then to find a housing advisor who could fight on the above principles which are legitimate ones.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do OP.

Rachel, see my other response. You're using some legalities here which do not apply to this situation at all.

Parents not being able to let their their adult, wage earning children know it's time to leave home, if they need a shove in the right direction, doesn't even bear thinking about.

agrinnall

I'm not at all surprised your mother wants you out, you should be taking responsibility for your own lives at your ages. I simply don't believe there is no accommodation available, I rather suspect you've had such a cushy time so far you haven't bothered to properly look for any.

rachel230

Jenniefour wrote: »

Rachel, see my other response. You're using some legalities here which do not apply to this situation at all.

Parents not being able to let their their adult, wage earning children know it's time to leave home, if they need a shove in the right direction, doesn't even bear thinking about.

Hi Jennie,
Don`t disagree with you at all about the unhealthiness of adult children living at home:)
I am thinking of a case where the adult daughter had difficulties and it would have been traumatic for her to have been told to pack her bags without any notice, simply on her mother`s whim (new boyfriend moving in who did not want the daughter there!)
I don`t think anyone should be turfed out without notice except in exceptional circumstances e.g. violence
But I get where you are coming from with regard to adult children living at home. Not healthy for either generation!

DoaM

As many above have said, look at alternatives and make plans to leave. Once mommy-dearest realises she'll have to find more than twice the amount she's currently paying (for rent to the council) then her thoughts may change.

And if you do leave, it might put her on a sticky wicket in terms of the property she currently has, and whether the council will let her stay there.

PS - why is everyone assuming the OP is female? Unless I've missed it, OP has only mentioned the gender of the sibling - not their own.

Cakeguts

You are adults now and you need to start to think about this whole situation as adults. Your mother's relationships now are no business of yours. Just as you would not want your mother to interfere in a relationship that you might have. Relationships change when you become adults.

We will start from whose home you think this is that you are living in? From your post it sounds as if you think it is your home. It was your home when you were children but you are adults now and it is now only your mother's home. As it is your mother's home you have to live with the choices that she makes in her home. Your mother is allowing you to live in her home with her new partner and herself. You have no rights it is not your home. You are not on the tenancy agreement and adults who are not on a tenancy agreement are not tenants so if you live there you are living in the tenant's home and that tenant is your mother. It is her home not yours. As I said things change when you become an adult.

As adults you now need to move out and find your own homes. If you can't afford to rent a whole flat you find a room and become a lodger of someone else not your mother.

Your mother wants you to leave because your behaviour in her home is not acceptable to her. So it is now time for you to move out and make your own homes where you can do what you want to do.

26 and 27 is getting to be a bit old to still be living with a parent anyway.

comeandgo

DoaM wrote: »

As many above have said, look at alternatives and make plans to leave. Once mommy-dearest realises she'll have to find more than twice the amount she's currently paying (for rent to the council) then her thoughts may change.

And if you do leave, it might put her on a sticky wicket in terms of the property she currently has, and whether the council will let her stay there.

PS - why is everyone assuming the OP is female? Unless I've missed it, OP has only mentioned the gender of the sibling - not their own.

Who has said anything about them both being female? I mentioned my two daughters as that is what I have, and would not want them both back at the same time living full time with me.