Land Registry questions

beeah13

Hello @Land_Registry, 

Can I request an update on an adverse possession application please? Title number CYM860947 Ref: 230112-1579015  

We applied on 12th January and our application was expedited, but we haven't received any correspondence and our solicitor is struggling to get an update. We would just like to know if the letter to the registered owners has been sent yet if possible.

Thank you.  

Odin_06

Land_Registry said:

Odin_06 said:

Hi,

I purchased a house in April 22 however nothing is showing up yet under land registry. I realise from reading this forum that this is not actually as long as I thought it was. However, I know of friends that have since bought a new house after me and received all the paperwork already etc.

Title:  AGL120800

I would be very grateful if this could be checked as I don't want to wait until it's time to sell in a few year's time to check that all the paperwork has actually been submitted for my purchase.

Thanks!

Is that the correct title number? If it is then we did have an application submitted in September but cancelled in December as it was incomplete. Please contact the conveyancer to confirm and to clarify their position/timescale 

Thank you, this is the correct title number. I will contact the conveyancer, however given my current experience with them and the outcome of what you have just said I am not sure where to go from here.

Let's see what they say

moneysaver1978

Land_Registry said:

Firstly the restriction won’t directly affect you as it relates to the seller and their joint ownership - irrelevant re your wider concerns as a result. 

The Transfer is the key document you/your conveyancer to consider. When the Council sold the property back in 1986 they imposed restrictive covenants on the buyer. 

The separate covenant just links the owners to the same covenants. 

You’d need to read the Transfer (apply by post - see link from online service guidance you used to get the register) - to understand what the covenants are and how they restrict you. 

Such covenants are imposed for the benefit of other land/property owners often on the same development/estate. Not the Council unless they still own benefiting land/property on the development/estate 
To what extent they actually restrict any of your plans is something to consider and discuss with your conveyancer. 

Thank you for your reply - this is very helpful!

Is the Transfer document something that I could order online from your portal? I am unable to find this document anywhere on your website (the only documents available are the Title register and Title plan). While I could probably  leave this to our conveyancer to find themselves, for our peace of mind, I wanted to do our own due diligence (plus for our own education!).

Land_Registry

beeah13 said:

Hello @Land_Registry, 

Can I request an update on an adverse possession application please? Title number CYM860947 Ref: 230112-1579015  

We applied on 12th January and our application was expedited, but we haven't received any correspondence and our solicitor is struggling to get an update. We would just like to know if the letter to the registered owners has been sent yet if possible.

Thank you.  

Still with us but notifications have now been issued 

Land_Registry

moneysaver1978 said:

Land_Registry said:

Firstly the restriction won’t directly affect you as it relates to the seller and their joint ownership - irrelevant re your wider concerns as a result. 

The Transfer is the key document you/your conveyancer to consider. When the Council sold the property back in 1986 they imposed restrictive covenants on the buyer. 

The separate covenant just links the owners to the same covenants. 

You’d need to read the Transfer (apply by post - see link from online service guidance you used to get the register) - to understand what the covenants are and how they restrict you. 

Such covenants are imposed for the benefit of other land/property owners often on the same development/estate. Not the Council unless they still own benefiting land/property on the development/estate 
To what extent they actually restrict any of your plans is something to consider and discuss with your conveyancer. 

Thank you for your reply - this is very helpful!

Is the Transfer document something that I could order online from your portal? I am unable to find this document anywhere on your website (the only documents available are the Title register and Title plan). While I could probably  leave this to our conveyancer to find themselves, for our peace of mind, I wanted to do our own due diligence (plus for our own education!).

You can’t order it online. The link explains how to apply 
https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/copies-of-deeds

moneysaver1978

Land_Registry said:

moneysaver1978 said:

Land_Registry said:

Firstly the restriction won’t directly affect you as it relates to the seller and their joint ownership - irrelevant re your wider concerns as a result. 

The Transfer is the key document you/your conveyancer to consider. When the Council sold the property back in 1986 they imposed restrictive covenants on the buyer. 

The separate covenant just links the owners to the same covenants. 

You’d need to read the Transfer (apply by post - see link from online service guidance you used to get the register) - to understand what the covenants are and how they restrict you. 

Such covenants are imposed for the benefit of other land/property owners often on the same development/estate. Not the Council unless they still own benefiting land/property on the development/estate 
To what extent they actually restrict any of your plans is something to consider and discuss with your conveyancer. 

Thank you for your reply - this is very helpful!

Is the Transfer document something that I could order online from your portal? I am unable to find this document anywhere on your website (the only documents available are the Title register and Title plan). While I could probably  leave this to our conveyancer to find themselves, for our peace of mind, I wanted to do our own due diligence (plus for our own education!).

You can’t order it online. The link explains how to apply 
https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/copies-of-deeds

Oh I see, I was looking for "Transfer" but couldn't find it - I guess it's the same as "Deeds"

Thank you again!

ChasingtheWelshdream

Good evening, I am hoping you can help.

We are looking to apply to have a Form A restriction removed from a title as there is now only one surviving proprietor.  I understand we need to use RX3, supported by a Statement of Truth ST5.

This statement will declare that nobody else has a beneficial interest in the property due to the deceased’s estate being settled previously under intestacy rules.

Originally there were 4 beneficiaries of the deceased’s share. Only 2 beneficiaries are now alive who can declare this and provide evidence. (The sole proprietor  ‘bought out’ the beneficiaries with the cash value).

My question is whether the statement can be signed by these remaining surviving beneficiaries only? Or will we need to track down the families of the other 2 deceased’s beneficiaries to complete the declaration?

I hope that makes sense, I’ve tried to keep a complicated story simple!

Land_Registry

ChasingtheWelshdream said:

Good evening, I am hoping you can help.

We are looking to apply to have a Form A restriction removed from a title as there is now only one surviving proprietor.  I understand we need to use RX3, supported by a Statement of Truth ST5.

This statement will declare that nobody else has a beneficial interest in the property due to the deceased’s estate being settled previously under intestacy rules.

Originally there were 4 beneficiaries of the deceased’s share. Only 2 beneficiaries are now alive who can declare this and provide evidence. (The sole proprietor  ‘bought out’ the beneficiaries with the cash value).

My question is whether the statement can be signed by these remaining surviving beneficiaries only? Or will we need to track down the families of the other 2 deceased’s beneficiaries to complete the declaration?

I hope that makes sense, I’ve tried to keep a complicated story simple!

The statement of truth would only be made by the sole surviving owner to show how he/she is now the sole legal and beneficial owner. State the facts to support the form A removal. 

See section 7 of our PG 6 for guidance and confirmation 
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/devolution-on-the-death-of-a-registered-proprietor

ChasingtheWelshdream

Thank you so much, that is really helpful!

Button83

I completed at the end of January, should the land registery have been updated by now?