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  • JHLow
    JHLow Posts: 9 Forumite
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    Hi @Land_Registry, may I know the change of ownership application for property title MAN327496 has been processed?

    Thank you.
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,146 Organisation Representative
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    Hi, I hope you can help. I completed my purchase on 6th May, the title number is HP178492. We were first time buyers having never owned property previously. Land Registry has still not updated and I’m getting a bit anxious that my conveyancer hasn’t filed the transaction correctly. It’s a freehold property. Other houses in my street have sold as recently as August and are showing correctly on Land Registry. Is someone able to take a quick look and advise of the status? Many thanks. 
    Lodged 24th May and waiting to be processed. Your purchase/ownership is protected so no need to be anxious. Your conveyancer will let you know once all registered 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,146 Organisation Representative
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    hopeful12 said:
    hopeful12 said:
    My parents, who are both no longer with us, bought their council house with the leasehold with it in 1990. They lived in it until 2006, when they had both passed, and my daughter bought it. No problems arose during this sale. The property is showing on the land registry in her name as Freehold. However, she is now in the process of selling the property to a housing association who supplies properties to the council, ironically, it is the original council, my parents bought it from in1990. Their solicitor has now said there is C1 charge showing in the register that says * Lease dated 8 March1872 of the land in this title and other land to Thomas Sadler and Samuel Paton for 999 years from 1 May 1872 at the rent of £19.8s.0d.* Neither myself or my daughter have ever heard of this before, certainly no payments have ever been paid since the original sale in 1990. There is also a very clear dated entry on the land registry file, showing the transfer of land in the title, made between my parents and the council, made pursuant to Part V of the housing Act, 1985. 
    However, the housing association solicitors are asking for the C1 charge to be removed. We have contacted the council who say they acknowledge the leasehold was sold with the house in the original sale but they no longer have any paperwork to show this. The land registry wont remove it unless they see some paperwork to prove it should not be on there. The housing association will not accept an indemnity policy, they say as a business, they cannot take a risk that something will come back on them at a later point in time. So now we are in limbo, we cant proceed with the sale unless something gets sorted. Are we missing something, surely, the fact that the entry for the transfer is clearly there and dated on the register should be enough ? How many councils or even banks etc,, would have documents relating back to 1990. 
    It’s a noted lease, not a charge, and it’s not cancelled until it’s proven that it no longer exists. There’s a myriad of ways in which a lease can come to an end, determined, as explained in our Practice Guide 
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/leases-determination
    The ‘transfer’ you refer to was presumably of the freehold tenure. If so then that doesn't impact on the leasehold unless for example they owned both and then merged the lease. 
    So the key is what happened to the lease and can it be ‘determined’ 


    Thank you for this information, however, I have used the link provided and cannot see anything that suits this situation. If you have have any idea which particular section of the leases- determination, we need to be looking at, that would be of enormous help. Also, as above the council no longer have any paperwork on this property. As my daughter know owns the property, I would assume it is her, that needs to apply for the removal of the noted lease, ( once we find out how to do this). If not and it is the former council and they no longer hold the paperwork, how can it be removed. Does this mean we can never sell it, not really sure why the prospected buyers as a housing association dealing with the said council, cant be more obliging and accept an indemnity policy. Thank you again.
    How it’s ‘determined’ will depend on the very specific set of circumstances that only you/your daughter are presumably aware of. The most likely seem to be merger, operation of law or forfeiture but you need to work through the legalities of what actually happened re the lease and how the law views such events in terms of the lease being determined. 
    You need legal advice if you are uncertain 

    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,146 Organisation Representative
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    Tattie63 said:
    Hello,
    How do I obtain the title deeds for my house.Now mortgage is paid.I live in Scotland.
    How much does it cost !
    You’d need to contact the Registers of Scotland 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,146 Organisation Representative
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    JHLow said:
    Hi @Land_Registry, may I know the change of ownership application for property title MAN327496 has been processed?

    Thank you.
    It’s been processed but we needed more from conveyancer on 16th September. We’re waiting on their reply now. 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Hi @Land_Registry is it possible to get an update on title: K612254?

    We completed in feb, it was submitted in April, I chased in July and was told no update. Just wondering if it will have registered soon?

    Thanks!!
    Finally completed on our new home
    Cladding Scandal Activist
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,146 Organisation Representative
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    Hi @Land_Registry is it possible to get an update on title: K612254?

    We completed in feb, it was submitted in April, I chased in July and was told no update. Just wondering if it will have registered soon?

    Thanks!!
    Lodged April as you state but waiting to be processed still. Your purchase is protected and hopefully it will be processed shortly. When it is the conveyancer will be notified so please continue to bear with us. 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Hi, what are rough time scales for expedited (and un-expedited) removal of a rent charge?  ‘Privately’ removed in the past, redemption cert obtained, but not registered 
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,146 Organisation Representative
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Hi, what are rough time scales for expedited (and un-expedited) removal of a rent charge?  ‘Privately’ removed in the past, redemption cert obtained, but not registered 
    Expedition should get the application moving within 2 weeks in most cases. Then it’s all about it being in order and capable of being completed 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Abrasam
    Abrasam Posts: 15 Forumite
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    Abrasam said:
    Abrasam said
    I was wondering if this application had been lodged yet, title number NGL951296. Thank you, Sam.
    Just enquiring for this again - any chance it's been submitted?
    Nothing still 
    Can I check again? Thank you for your continued help! Title number NGL951296.
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