Land Registry questions

LondonHouseholder34

I am trying to remove a charge on a property, and sent off forms to the Land Registry at the end of June this year.  The title deeds record  HS128770  still shows "Pending".  Is there a long backlog at the Registry, or any way to check on progress?

Land_Registry

scr2 said:

How long is it taking currently on average to register a property that requires registration prior to selling?

A long wait. If there’s a confirmed buyer then it should be lodged first and a separate request to expedite submitted afterwards. Expedition reduces the wait time to a few weeks but it still has to all be in order of course

Land_Registry

LondonHouseholder34 said:

I am trying to remove a charge on a property, and sent off forms to the Land Registry at the end of June this year.  The title deeds record  HS128770  still shows "Pending".  Is there a long backlog at the Registry, or any way to check on progress?

Submitted last week of June and waiting to be processed still. That should be soon and we’ll contact you as appropriate when that happens 

Land_Registry

twizzletop said:

MrsKC2131 said:

twizzletop said:

Land_Registry said:

twizzletop said:

Land_Registry said:

twizzletop said:

It hasn’t been expedited as I said, so might be worth him actually checking online - I’m assuming he checked for you? 

One of us can’t be right and it reads as if he asked but hasn’t checked to confirm as IF it had been expedited he’d have been told when he asked 

If it’s in order then it’s completed there and then. If it’s not expedited then the wait time is 9+ months from receipt 
I’ll flag it with colleagues to see if we can expedite it but I’d encourage you to ask the conveyancer to check for themselves also

Thank you.
He has sent correspondence via the portal and attached the memorandum of sale. 
The land registry reference number is DC5C1A7
Thank you 

Many thanks although sadly he’s still used the wrong request channel. 

However as I posted I’ve flagged it with colleagues so expedition should follow shortly 

Thank you for your help with this. My solicitor has now received a requisition regarding a creditors notice that was added to the title register in 1995. I contacted the land charges office in June and was told that it had been removed from the land charges index under section 8 of the land charges act 1972. Can this notice now be removed from the title register and if so how do I get it removed?
Thank you.
 

If it’s been removed then yes. The conveyancer needs to reply to our request dated 11th August and provide the evidence that it’s been discharged, dismissed or otherwise as appropriate 

That's great, thank you. I have a letter from the land charges office that confirms it has been removed. I have already sent it to my conveyancer so will hopefully be sorted soon.
Many thanks for all your help.

Hi,
My solicitor has told me he submitted an extract via the portal on Monday which should enable the creditors notice to be removed so the lease extension can be registered. 
Please could you advise if this has been seen yet?

Thank you

Just realised I logged in with a different account! 😳

We received a reply late on the 6th so it will be referred for a caseworker to reconsider. As it’s an expedite that will be ASAP. I suspect we’ll need to do more than simply nod it through but hopefully the expedite status will keep it moving forward 

scr2

Land_Registry said:

scr2 said:

How long is it taking currently on average to register a property that requires registration prior to selling?

A long wait. If there’s a confirmed buyer then it should be lodged first and a separate request to expedite submitted afterwards. Expedition reduces the wait time to a few weeks but it still has to all be in order of course

Thanks for your reply. I am actually a confirmed buyer and the seller's solicitor raised a request to expedite the application in July but seems to have been slow pace so far. The seller's solicitor even has contacted the city council to push the land registry to process the application.

Land_Registry

scr2 said:

Land_Registry said:

scr2 said:

How long is it taking currently on average to register a property that requires registration prior to selling?

A long wait. If there’s a confirmed buyer then it should be lodged first and a separate request to expedite submitted afterwards. Expedition reduces the wait time to a few weeks but it still has to all be in order of course

Thanks for your reply. I am actually a confirmed buyer and the seller's solicitor raised a request to expedite the application in July but seems to have been slow pace so far. The seller's solicitor even has contacted the city council to push the land registry to process the application.

Understood so was it expedited and if so what’s happened next? The solicitor should be able to confirm both by using their secure portal. 

If it was expedited, worth confirming, then there must be a reason for further delay 

NeverTooLate

Land_Registry said:

NeverTooLate said:

Land_Registry said:

NeverTooLate said:

Land_Registry said:

NeverTooLate said:

I was wondering whether you could help with this query?

When a search shows up a charge on the charge register does the number against the charge have some meaning? Can it be looked up somewhere to find out who put the charge on?

For example:

C1 NO. 145794 DATED 29 JUL 1986

PROPERTY ADDRESS

What does the 145794 signify?

What type of search are you doing and through which service/channel please? 

It’s not a format I’m familiar with so need more 

It put in a K15 form to

Land Charges Department
PO Box 292
Plymouth
PL5 9BY 

below is the K18 form that I received in reply to the K15.

Many thanks and it’s a Land Charges search result. 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/land-charges-applications-for-registration-official-search-office-copy-and-cancellation

Who the charge is in favour of has been blanked out. If you want to check who applied for it you’d need to contact Land Charges  LandCharges.CustomerTeam@landregistry.gov.uk

The charge is against my mother's name, she & my father owned the property as Joint Tenants, no charge against my father's name. My mother died in 2014.

I am trying to determine what the charge actually is in order to have it removed and was hoping that the '145794' number might be some sort of identifier that could be looked up?

It’s a file reference re the Land Charge itself. If you need more information then contact Land Charges. Otherwise you contact the named creditor 

Sorry to keep at this but I'm having trouble getting the charge removed.

The bank involved tells me that they cannot remove the charge because the property is not registered - is that correct?

Is it possible to register a property when there is a charge against a deceased person on it (this is not a sale, just trying to voluntarily register an unregistered property). The deceased person was a joint owner of the property prior to death (joint tenants).

scr2

Land_Registry said:

scr2 said:

Land_Registry said:

scr2 said:

How long is it taking currently on average to register a property that requires registration prior to selling?

A long wait. If there’s a confirmed buyer then it should be lodged first and a separate request to expedite submitted afterwards. Expedition reduces the wait time to a few weeks but it still has to all be in order of course

Thanks for your reply. I am actually a confirmed buyer and the seller's solicitor raised a request to expedite the application in July but seems to have been slow pace so far. The seller's solicitor even has contacted the city council to push the land registry to process the application.

Understood so was it expedited and if so what’s happened next? The solicitor should be able to confirm both by using their secure portal. 

If it was expedited, worth confirming, then there must be a reason for further delay 

I am not sure if there is any reason to have it delayed. The property was previously appearing in the online HM land registry database but now does not show up anymore. I cannot contact the seller's solicitor directly. The estate agent said that the seller's solicitor has involved the city council to push the land registry as it already has been more than 2 months. Hopefully, this will further expedite the matter.

Land_Registry

NeverTooLate said:

Land_Registry said:

NeverTooLate said:

Land_Registry said:

NeverTooLate said:

Land_Registry said:

NeverTooLate said:

I was wondering whether you could help with this query?

When a search shows up a charge on the charge register does the number against the charge have some meaning? Can it be looked up somewhere to find out who put the charge on?

For example:

C1 NO. 145794 DATED 29 JUL 1986

PROPERTY ADDRESS

What does the 145794 signify?

What type of search are you doing and through which service/channel please? 

It’s not a format I’m familiar with so need more 

It put in a K15 form to

Land Charges Department
PO Box 292
Plymouth
PL5 9BY 

below is the K18 form that I received in reply to the K15.

Many thanks and it’s a Land Charges search result. 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/land-charges-applications-for-registration-official-search-office-copy-and-cancellation

Who the charge is in favour of has been blanked out. If you want to check who applied for it you’d need to contact Land Charges  LandCharges.CustomerTeam@landregistry.gov.uk

The charge is against my mother's name, she & my father owned the property as Joint Tenants, no charge against my father's name. My mother died in 2014.

I am trying to determine what the charge actually is in order to have it removed and was hoping that the '145794' number might be some sort of identifier that could be looked up?

It’s a file reference re the Land Charge itself. If you need more information then contact Land Charges. Otherwise you contact the named creditor 

Sorry to keep at this but I'm having trouble getting the charge removed.

The bank involved tells me that they cannot remove the charge because the property is not registered - is that correct?

Is it possible to register a property when there is a charge against a deceased person on it (this is not a sale, just trying to voluntarily register an unregistered property). The deceased person was a joint owner of the property prior to death (joint tenants).

No - see section 5 of the guidance 
Yes and the charge would be added to the registered title as appropriate. 

NeverTooLate

Land_Registry said:

NeverTooLate said:

Land_Registry said:

NeverTooLate said:

Land_Registry said:

NeverTooLate said:

Land_Registry said:

NeverTooLate said:

I was wondering whether you could help with this query?

When a search shows up a charge on the charge register does the number against the charge have some meaning? Can it be looked up somewhere to find out who put the charge on?

For example:

C1 NO. 145794 DATED 29 JUL 1986

PROPERTY ADDRESS

What does the 145794 signify?

What type of search are you doing and through which service/channel please? 

It’s not a format I’m familiar with so need more 

It put in a K15 form to

Land Charges Department
PO Box 292
Plymouth
PL5 9BY 

below is the K18 form that I received in reply to the K15.

Many thanks and it’s a Land Charges search result. 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/land-charges-applications-for-registration-official-search-office-copy-and-cancellation

Who the charge is in favour of has been blanked out. If you want to check who applied for it you’d need to contact Land Charges  LandCharges.CustomerTeam@landregistry.gov.uk

The charge is against my mother's name, she & my father owned the property as Joint Tenants, no charge against my father's name. My mother died in 2014.

I am trying to determine what the charge actually is in order to have it removed and was hoping that the '145794' number might be some sort of identifier that could be looked up?

It’s a file reference re the Land Charge itself. If you need more information then contact Land Charges. Otherwise you contact the named creditor 

Sorry to keep at this but I'm having trouble getting the charge removed.

The bank involved tells me that they cannot remove the charge because the property is not registered - is that correct?

Is it possible to register a property when there is a charge against a deceased person on it (this is not a sale, just trying to voluntarily register an unregistered property). The deceased person was a joint owner of the property prior to death (joint tenants).

No - see section 5 of the guidance 
Yes and the charge would be added to the registered title as appropriate. 

Thank you.