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  • sharhar
    sharhar Posts: 40 Forumite
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    sharhar said:
    Hi, any advise on timelines (approx) on how long it will take to remove a help 2 buy charge from the title after Homes England have applied to HMLR with an e-DS1? I have a remortgage pending and just need to give some date to my lender's solicitor to not chase me until then.
    Some are electronic so are removed instantly. If they’ve lodged it in another way then several weeks wait. Do you have the title number as some lenders won’t wait if you’re remortgaging 
    Hi, thanks again for your reply. Yes I do have the title number. Is it OK to post it here? Not sure about the rules of this forum.
  • sharhar
    sharhar Posts: 40 Forumite
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    edited 21 June 2021 at 9:24AM
    sharhar said:
    sharhar said:
    Hi, any advise on timelines (approx) on how long it will take to remove a help 2 buy charge from the title after Homes England have applied to HMLR with an e-DS1? I have a remortgage pending and just need to give some date to my lender's solicitor to not chase me until then.
    Some are electronic so are removed instantly. If they’ve lodged it in another way then several weeks wait. Do you have the title number as some lenders won’t wait if you’re remortgaging 
    Hi, thanks again for your reply. Yes I do have the title number. Is it OK to post it here? Not sure about the rules of this forum.
    I can see many have mentioned tiltle numbers in previous posts. Mine is. 
  • Oxid8uk
    Oxid8uk Posts: 224 Forumite
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    Oxid8uk said:

    Hi

    My parents are needing some advice and I hoped you could help.

    They have owned a property for over 20 years which they rent out, all registered with the LR etc, with a title plan showing the area of land they own. It is a semi-detached with small yard at the back. The back boundary is a cliff face which is terraced, and on the terrace (which is about 20 foot high) a wall is constructed. It runs behind both my parents property and the attached neighbours property. My parents and their attached neighbours do not own this terrace and wall and there is nothing in their title deeds indicating this.

    Their other next-door neighbour (detached property) owns this area of terrace and wall and it is documented on her paper title plan. Her property and garden are currently unregistered (she has lived there 40+ years) but she has now decided that she wants to register it. However, following advice from her solicitor, she has decided that she is not going to register this area of land behind my parent’s property even though she owns it. What my parents need to know is can she legally not register an area of land even though her paper deeds show it? And if she can legally not register this land does it mean she no longer owns it and therefore absolves her of any responsibility for it? My parents are worried that if she no longer has responsibility for it what would happen if this wall collapsed and damaged their property, or worse still injured/killed someone.  

    Many thanks for any help you can give.

    Yes is the answer to your first question. Any registration now would be voluntary so her choice. 
    No, she still owns it. All land is owned but not all land is registered. 
    Your solicitor is best placed to answer your Qs re legal responsibility if something happens as suggested. We don’t provide legal advice. We confirm who a legal owner of registered land is. 
    Thanks for coming back so quickly. Accepted that you cannot give legal advice.

    My parents neighbour seems to be of the understanding that if she doesn't register the terrace then she would no longer own it and therefore the council would eventually take ownership of it (the council own the land above the cliff). We're not sure if she has misunderstood what registering land means or has been given incorrect advice by her solicitor.
  • Slithery
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    Oxid8uk said:
    My parents neighbour seems to be of the understanding that if she doesn't register the terrace then she would no longer own it.
    That is incorrect. The land wouldn't be registered but she would still own it.
  • Land_Registry
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    sharhar said:
    I can see many have mentioned tiltle numbers in previous posts. Mine is
    Submitted on 18th June same day as an application to register a purchase/Transfer. It couldn’t be removed automatically as a result so won’t be for several weeks as it will be done when the transfer is registered 
    If there’s an urgency then you need your conveyancer to request expedition 
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-an-expedite

    You can edit your post re title number 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • sharhar
    sharhar Posts: 40 Forumite
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    sharhar said:
    I can see many have mentioned tiltle numbers in previous posts. Mine is
    Submitted on 18th June same day as an application to register a purchase/Transfer. It couldn’t be removed automatically as a result so won’t be for several weeks as it will be done when the transfer is registered 
    If there’s an urgency then you need your conveyancer to request expedition 
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-an-expedite

    You can edit your post re title number 
    Thank you very much for all your help. I wish I could get answers from all organisations (esp my solicitors) instantly like this. :)
  • CLJP72
    CLJP72 Posts: 19 Forumite
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    CLJP72 said:
    We purchased a property in September 2020 and it's sale is still not showing in the land registry. Is this the norm?
    It can be as some types of application are waiting several months before processing. If you completed and the application has been submitted then it’s just a case of waiting until your conveyancer confirms it’s been done 
    Thank you. Do you think it's worth contacting the solicitors who dealt with the sale?
  • ss2020jd
    ss2020jd Posts: 652 Forumite
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    Hi, apologies if this has been asked before. I have been through some pages of previous threads but haven’t found anything so would be grateful for any advice.

    I am looking at property to potentially offer on but on the initial searches on Land Registry site it states:

    Sorry, we do not have a record of any titles for this property. This does not necessarily mean that the property is unregistered.

    It does show up in a land registry plan on a couple of site plans for planning permission for neighbouring properties (one also under a different name which I also searched for but it was the same message). 

    I’m just wondering if this could cause any potential issues during the purchase process or if there is anything I need to check in the meantime? It seems like it was built by the current owner some years ago. 


  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,156 Organisation Representative
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    ss2020jd said:
    Hi, apologies if this has been asked before. I have been through some pages of previous threads but haven’t found anything so would be grateful for any advice.

    I am looking at property to potentially offer on but on the initial searches on Land Registry site it states:

    Sorry, we do not have a record of any titles for this property. This does not necessarily mean that the property is unregistered.

    It does show up in a land registry plan on a couple of site plans for planning permission for neighbouring properties (one also under a different name which I also searched for but it was the same message). 

    I’m just wondering if this could cause any potential issues during the purchase process or if there is anything I need to check in the meantime? It seems like it was built by the current owner some years ago. 

    It simply means your search criteria hasnt matched any registered details. That could mean it’s unregistered but the EA/Seller can confirm quickly
    Try the Map Enquiry option online and search using the map/aerial imagery. Zoom in and use the search radius to ‘hit’ the actual property and see if it gives you a direct hit result. 
    If it is unregistered then conveyancing timescales can be stretched but ask your solicitor 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • ss2020jd
    ss2020jd Posts: 652 Forumite
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    ss2020jd said:
    Hi, apologies if this has been asked before. I have been through some pages of previous threads but haven’t found anything so would be grateful for any advice.

    I am looking at property to potentially offer on but on the initial searches on Land Registry site it states:

    Sorry, we do not have a record of any titles for this property. This does not necessarily mean that the property is unregistered.

    It does show up in a land registry plan on a couple of site plans for planning permission for neighbouring properties (one also under a different name which I also searched for but it was the same message). 

    I’m just wondering if this could cause any potential issues during the purchase process or if there is anything I need to check in the meantime? It seems like it was built by the current owner some years ago. 

    It simply means your search criteria hasnt matched any registered details. That could mean it’s unregistered but the EA/Seller can confirm quickly
    Try the Map Enquiry option online and search using the map/aerial imagery. Zoom in and use the search radius to ‘hit’ the actual property and see if it gives you a direct hit result. 
    If it is unregistered then conveyancing timescales can be stretched but ask your solicitor 
    Thank you so much for the information. That’s very helpful. I wasn’t aware of the Map Enquiry option either. Much appreciated.
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