Gants Hill residents fed up of ‘stupid’ fines for cars parked on drives

nicechap

trinidadone wrote: »

that argument about parking parallel has already been covered!!

Perhaps you would be so good to point me to where it has been covered?

Hong_Kong_Phooey.

peachyprice wrote: »

You obviously don't know the area, pretty much every street has parking restrictions due to being close to a tube station,

Well that's good they're enforcing the parking in that area as the residents would be up in arms if the streets were packed with commuters cars.

EachPenny

What the residents are doing is wrong, it is illegal, and technically the council is correct to issue them with a penalty.

However, the road is extremely narrow (hence yellow lines on both sides) and the frontages are too short for proper off-street parking. The sensible solution would be for the council to carry out a comprehensive scheme whereby some of the highway is sold to the residents to increase the depth of their off-street parking.

But converting highway into private land is very expensive, and not all residents will be willing to pay. So there is zero chance of the council being able to implement the sensible solution.

This kind of situation exists all over London, and most towns and cities in the UK. The common approach taken is to add the street to a 'secret' list of roads where no enforcement of certain types of contraventions is carried out (the 'blind eye' solution). But this only works until someone complains, or one of the enforcement officers doesn't read the memo.

The fors and againsts of parking overhanging the footway is an interesting discussion, but what is far more interesting is a comment in this BBC story - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40729398

Redbridge Council said tickets could be issued for parking "more than 50cm from the edge of the carriageway and not within a designated parking space".

It could be a case of bad reporting. But if not, it appears the council is issuing PCN's against the prohibition under section 6 of the London Local Authorities Act 2000, commonly known as the 'double parking' restriction. A PCN can be issued for a vehicle parked "more than 50cm from the edge of the carriageway", but an essential requirement of this section is that "the vehicle is on the carriageway of a road". (The section relates to double parking, not footway parking)

As the cars in the pictures are on various combinations of driveways and footways, but apparently never "on the carriageway" then the council should not be using the '50cm' contravention as any PCN's issued in these circumstances are unlikely to be upheld on appeal.

Lets hope for the council's sake that it is just a case of bad reporting.

Johno100

greatgimpo wrote: »

Let's hope the blind pedestrian has his white stick radar turned on.

Better remove all the trees, road signs and lamp posts as well, you know just in case.

AnotherJoe

trinidadone wrote: »

Irshad Nabee and other residents are angry about having their cars ticketed because the vehicles extend out onto the pavement due to many of the houses having short drives

Or long cars, and/or because they feel that the fact they have a drive gives them permission to park on the pavement.

trinidadone

greatgimpo wrote: »

Let's hope the blind pedestrian has his white stick radar turned on.

Most partially sighted / blind pedestrians would use the centre of the pavement, to avoid obstacles at either side of the pavement, and if required, would use a white cane to ensure smooth passage, and warn other pedestrians. I do not think a "radar" is required.

trinidadone

AnotherJoe wrote: »

Or long cars, and/or because they feel that the fact they have a drive gives them permission to park on the pavement.

The parking on pavement has been thoroughly covered above, so not going to add what has been stated already

Hong_Kong_Phooey.

trinidadone wrote: »

The parking on pavement has been thoroughly covered above, so not going to add what has been stated already

It's not been covered you just don't have the brains to counter the arguement.

trinidadone

Hong_Kong_Phooey. wrote: »

Well that's good they're enforcing the parking in that area as the residents would be up in arms if the streets were packed with commuters cars.

Well the residents would not be up in arms, because as stated the area is close to a tube station, full of yellow lines. I am sure also, there are some TFL roads close also, so commuters will also have the lovely red routes to contend with also.

trinidadone

Hong_Kong_Phooey. wrote: »

It's not been covered you just don't have the brains to counter the arguement.

read above, you will find parking on paving as been mentioned above.

No one told me we were arguing LOL LOL LOL LOL :):):):)