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silvasava

Huge hugs Czarina - well said Monna xxx

Hard_Up_Hester

Hugs Csarina,

maryb

Czarina I'm so sad for you reading this. You have every reason to feel as you do, but I hope you can get some comfort from heartfelt good wishes

Islandmaid

csarina huge hugs x so, so sad - thinking of you and your family x

elona

Deleted_User

Of course you feel tearful at the anniversary especially after the shock. It is so unfair and the festive plans going on around us seems to just rub it in. Gentle virtual hug and I wish I could do something .

nursemaggie

Deleted_User I can't think of anything so shocking than to lose your lovely son like that. He was obviously a very loving son. As MMF007 said he could not possibly have felt anything. I should think the first year you felt so devastated every day no one day was without many tears. Perhaps you have had a few better days this year so it felt worse today.

Some will go to bed shortly so you may not hear from us all tonight so I am sending you a group hug until they can give you one themselves. :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: There are always plenty of hugs to go round on this thread.

mar I nearly said earlier how can anyone eat one jellybaby, and even more how can anyone be jellybabied out. I never buy two bags together because I know I will eat both bags in the one day.

The anti social unit from the housing association finally called me back this morning. The man said there was nothing they could do. It was up to the organisation who put the family upstairs. I think DS was at the end of his tether yesterday and I was today. They put the kids to bed at 6 pm tonight and there has not been a peep out of them since. I think I will go buy them some toys tomorrow.

camelot1001

Massive hugs to you csarina. Your tears aren't for 'no reason', you lost a loving and much loved son.

fuddle

Welcome to our little corner csarina. I'm saddened for your tears on such a desperately sad anniversary. Be kind to yourself. Much warmth to you.

The night owls must be catching up on their sleep tonight and thank goodness. I, however, have been crocheting ear warmers since 1.30am.

Mar and the gang I don't like jelly babies :eek:

NM other people's noise is just the worst. Peace is a right I think. Lack of peace is a method of torture for good reason. Hang in there.

MMF007

NM, your problems with noisy neighbours have really been bothering me.
I know you have been given the runaround by the council and the housing association but I wonder if this information will help? http://www.lgo.org.uk/make-a-complaint/fact-sheets/other-topics/neighbour-nuisance-and-anti-social-behaviour
Put complaint in writing, giving recent examples of date and times and description of noisy (type and level), and state date it first started and frequency, to both council and your landlord and tell them you expect whichever one has the duty of care and the duty to enforce the law relating to a 'statutory noise nuisance', to deal with it.
Point out that everyone has said it is someone else's responsibility but you are caught in the middle.
Tell them to sort out between them who should do it and to confirm to you and each other, in writing, what they will do.
Explain that if neither of them acts you will complain to the appropriate Ombudsman and seek compensation, but that what you desperately want is to be able to live without the excessive and unreasonble noise. Mark the letters 'COMPLAINT' !

Meanwhile, could you invite the mother to come into your flat for a cuppa while someone stomps round and shouts on the communal landing on the floor above, explaining that the sound really carries and here is the demonstration? People who have never lived in flats have no idea how noisy they can be. My DH had prev experience and said he would never live in a flat again because of this.

Sorry it's taken me so long to offer my two pen' 'orth. x

monnagran

nm, I agree with MMF, for the sake of your health and your DS's job, the time has come when something drastic has to happen. Going against everything I believe in, I wonder if the threat of legal action would help to concentrate the housing association's and landlord's minds. There are laws about noise nuisance for good reason.
I realise that you don't want to rock the boat while you are in the tricky business of trying to move, but quite obviously this situation can't go on.
Never mind giving the children toys, slippers might be a better idea.

Yesterday DS2 had a cancellation and took me for a stock up in Mr T's. I was very strict with myself but managed to get enough to keep me going for the next month as well as everything I will need for my Christmas present cooking.
Today I need to make a wee bitty more mincemeat and a vat of leek and potato soup, my all-time favourite, to keep me going for the next few days.
The rest of the day will be spent knitting. I have one more cushion cover to finish and should be able to knock that off this weekend.

Still bearing VJsmum, MMF, csarina and a couple of others that I know are going through a bad time, in my heart.

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