Ryanair sits hen party in FIFTEEN separate rows as outrage over seating policy grows

scd3scd4

"Trying a double bluff"?
It was over 8 years ago!

And......maybe they were just spinning an old story. Not really something to get excited about.

Whether it's an accident or not an accident, the fact is that passengers are totally at liberty to choose to pay to sit together.
Or to not pay.

Not really the point most are making. We already know that. If it's random then fair enough. If as is being suggested it's a practice or policy then its hardly customer focused. Just because I did not pay for an additional service does not mean you go out of your way to upset a customer. Is this the new.........adding value!

It remains to be seen whether the bright spark's idea 'did more harm than good'.
Personally, I'll leave Michael O'Leary to worry about his own profits that may or may not be damaged by his business decisions.

Again I dont care if he makes millions or is asking for change outside Burger King but it's an interesting debate. I dont need a master degree in logistics to know putting a person in the middle of three seats is hardly the workings of a skilled operator. :T

scd3scd4

On a side note, these operators will still take the money and call seating behind or across the aisle seating together.................is there an extra price we can pay to avoid that?:p

Pollycat

scd3scd4 wrote: »

And......maybe they were just spinning an old story. Not really something to get excited about.

I wasn't getting excited.
You brought up the 8 year old story.

scd3scd4 wrote: »

Not really the point most are making. We already know that. If it's random then fair enough. If as is being suggested it's a practice or policy then its hardly customer focused. Just because I did not pay for an additional service does not mean you go out of your way to upset a customer. Is this the new.........adding value!

Whether it's random or not, pay up or put up with it.
I'm afraid i'm not party to Mr O'Leary's business model.
You'd have to ask him if it is "the new.........adding value!"

scd3scd4 wrote: »

Again I dont care if he makes millions or is asking for change outside Burger King but it's an interesting debate. I dont need a master degree in logistics to know putting a person in the middle of three seats is hardly the workings of a skilled operator. :T

Oh, I think I'd disagree that O'Leary isn't a skilled operator

And I don't need a Master's degree in any subject to know that.

eDicky

Let's not forget that throughout the history of commercial flight, passengers who check in together have as a matter of course been given adjacent seating, whenever available. Even with the relatively recent introduction of online check-in and the option to select certain seats offered by some airlines for a fee, those who decline that option are still given adjacent seating when available.

The main point here is that Ryanair is the first airline to deliberately allocate seats that are far apart to passengers who check in together, in an attempt to force them to pay extra for adjacent seats.

The astonishing thing for me is that the majority of posters here not only accept this innovation but actively support it, so Ryanair is obviously doing the right thing. The season is here and the wool needs to be sheared from the flock of British traveling public sheep who are ready to be fleeced.

scd3scd4

The main point here is that Ryanair is the first airline to deliberately allocate seats that are far apart to passengers who check in together, in an attempt to force them to pay extra for adjacent seats.

The astonishing thing for me is that the majority of posters here not only accept this innovation but actively support it, so Ryanair is obviously doing the right thing. The season is here and the wool needs to be sheared from the flock of British traveling public sheep who are ready to be fleeced.

You said it better than me..........:beer:

scd3scd4

Whether it's random or not, pay up or put up with it.
I'm afraid i'm not party to Mr O'Leary's business model.
You'd have to ask him if it is "the new.........adding value!"

Why would I need to ask him. Who is he to me. It was rhetorical.
No......we will all continue to debate it and give our opinion. Regardless of if we use him, pay it or dont and go elsewhere. Again we know we can or can not pay it. If it was all that simple we would not need forums and debates.

Thats said I found this new practice interesting.

Oh, I think I'd disagree that O'Leary isn't a skilled operator

And I don't need a Master's degree in any subject to know that.

Well you know what you know..............:T

Pollycat

eDicky wrote: »

Let's not forget that throughout the history of commercial flight, passengers who check in together have as a matter of course been given adjacent seating, whenever available. Even with the relatively recent introduction of online check-in and the option to select certain seats offered by some airlines for a fee, those who decline that option are still given adjacent seating when available.

The main point here is that Ryanair is the first airline to deliberately allocate seats that are far apart to passengers who check in together, in an attempt to force them to pay extra for adjacent seats.

The astonishing thing for me is that the majority of posters here not only accept this innovation but actively support it, so Ryanair is obviously doing the right thing. The season is here and the wool needs to be sheared from the flock of British traveling public sheep who are ready to be fleeced.

I thought (but I may be wrong and am not in a position to check right now) that Ryanair followed Jet2 in this.

I don't support it at all.
I just don't give a toss whether I sit with my partner on a short-haul flight or not.
We don't even sit on the same seat on the local bus. :rotfl:

I just think that if something is so important to you and there is a cost involved you either pay up or accept what seats you've been given.

Let's not forget that there are lots of things that have been done a certain way throughout history but that doesn't mean that someone can't come along and change things.

esuhl

jpsartre wrote: »

That's a very poor comparison. Going on an airplane is a means to end for almost everyone, going to a restaurant is not.

What?! Of course going to a restaurant is a means to an end! The end being that you are no longer hungry!

Pollycat wrote: »

You think it's worth paying to sit with your partner so you pay what it costs.

Unlike some people who won't pay but throw their toys out of the pram when they aren't sat together.
"I want something for nothing".

I think its incredibly that RyanAir are spitting their dummy out and demanding something for nothing.

Once you've boarded the plane, before take-off, just go up and down the plain asking everyone if they would be happy to move. There will be plenty of people willing to do so for £3 or an item of similar value.

Instead of RyanAir saying "Boo hoo! We don't make a profit! This is a charity! Please give us £3 so our staff don't deliberately try to make your flight as unpleasant as possible. Give us another £3 and we won't spit in your drinks."

It's laughable that anyone is willing to be treated like this. There's one born every minute, I guess.

What if staff were employed on trains to ensure that boarding passengers are forcibly split up until they pay £3 extra to sit together? You'd be happy with that too?!

Or would you start bawling and demand something for nothing?

scd3scd4

It's laughable that anyone is willing to be treated like this. There's one born every minute, I guess.

Yep.........race to the bottom mentality. Why stop there. How about the Tube, Bus and how about the Theater . I think many of these businesses are missing a trick.


Easyjet use to have a practice that you paid to seat together and loaded first and then it was a free for all on a first come basis. Not sure it that this applies.

Frozen_up_north

eDicky wrote: »

The astonishing thing for me is that the majority of posters here not only accept this innovation but actively support it, so Ryanair is obviously doing the right thing. The season is here and the wool needs to be sheared from the flock of British traveling public sheep who are ready to be fleeced.

It's a free market, customers are free to fly with whoever they like. I book up to 8 flights a year and prefer Ryanair... they have newer aircraft than many, more flights and are invariably cheaper than their rivals.

At a time when Monarch have had yet another bail out, Jet2 are running aircraft that in many cases are 20+ years old, Ryanair are reporting a decent profit, hiring more staff and ordering more aircraft. They must be doing something right.