Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

Rusty_Shackleton

GreatApe wrote: »

What evidence would be sufficient for you to chance your mind

Can you provide any sources at all to back up what youre saying? Literally any of it?

Any government research that shows most poverty is caused by 'dysfunction', or people using food banks dont actually need them?
Any charities/universities reporting the same? No doubt the tabloids would have reported ant such studies?

Rusty_Shackleton

bobbymotors wrote: »

how can you be 8 stone over weight yet unable to afford food?

How about by putting 8 stone on over a period of tine, and then finding yourself poorer thannyou were at the time you put the weight on? Someone being overweight isnt a sign they got fat yesterday, if anything its a sign of a long term issue.

economic

GreatApe wrote: »

I think there is some truth in the idea that people are pack animals most of whom need to be dominated (told what to do). This goes counter to our ideas of freedom but I think a lot of people would benefit from regiment routine order and even things like food rationing. I'm not sure how that can be done while retaining freedom which is a necessity. Maybe it cant be done maybe freedom means a load of us have to eat ourselves to extreme obesity, become drug addicts and alcoholics and millions cause suffering to themselves and their families.

Edit: I suppose this is what would be monks and some other religious groups do. Go give up everything and join a group where you are told to leave your thinking and possessions behind and just go with what your told to do believe and be.

but its still a freedom to choose to become a monk or freedom to choose to go to the regiment routine training camp (even if you are forced to, you still have to get up and go to).

it all comes down to mental health. this is a combination of genetics and upbrining. some people are mentally stronger then others. mental health determines what course of action you take in life.

GreatApe

bobbymotors wrote: »

how can you be 8 stone over weight yet unable to afford food?

if you are emotional enough on tv, and ideally shout loudly at a tory MP anything possible. Said woman can even become a head of a regional momentum group

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/remember-tory-voting-mum-who-9645557

Rusty_Shackleton

economic wrote: »

but its still a freedom to choose to become a monk or freedom to choose to go to the regiment routine training camp (even if you are forced to, you still have to get up and go to).

it all comes down to mental health. this is a combination of genetics and upbrining. some people are mentally stronger then others. mental health determines what course of action you take in life.

The right wing always head towards dictatorship dont you

economic

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

How about by putting 8 stone on over a period of tine, and then finding yourself poorer thannyou were at the time you put the weight on? Someone being overweight isnt a sign they got fat yesterday, if anything its a sign of a long term issue.

yes long term dysfunctional issue. i think you are now starting to get it.

so the fat person spent a lot of her/his money on food because of the mental dysfunction. now its very very likely that this dysfunction spills over to other areas of life like being too lazy to get a job etc. hence its a dysfunctional problem that causes him/her to be poor and have a supposive !!!!!! life that she then compalins about it in the press how much benefits have been cut.

GreatApe

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

How about by putting 8 stone on over a period of tine, and then finding yourself poorer thannyou were at the time you put the weight on? Someone being overweight isnt a sign they got fat yesterday, if anything its a sign of a long term issue.

Sure but in the case of the nail bar woman she claimed she had to go hungry so she could feed her dogs :rotfl:. Well she actually said so she could feed her children but subsequently when the BBC went to her house she said again she goes hungry so she can feed her children the ironic bit was there was clearly two dogs in the house and one was eating away in the background. So claiming poverty, not just poverty but starvation while able to have two dogs.

Simply a liar and looks quite likely to have a front 'business'
But none of that is important for momentum liars are good at propaganda so she works for them now. Hopefully they pay her more so she can buy more food for herself now

Rusty_Shackleton

economic wrote: »

yes long term dysfunctional issue. i think you are now starting to get it.

so the fat person spent a lot of her/his money on food because of the mental dysfunction. now its very very likely that this dysfunction spills over to other areas of life like being too lazy to get a job etc. hence its a dysfunctional problem that causes him/her to be poor and have a supposive !!!!!! life that she then compalins about it in the press how much benefits have been cut.

*sigh* shall i rephrase so you dont (intentionally) misconstrue my point.

Lifelong problem with weight means person is overweight
One day loses their job, cant get another
Needs to use foodbank

The weight hasnt been put on at the point of need. The weight is not an indicator of legitimately needing to use a foodbank or not.

economic

GreatApe wrote: »

if you are emotional enough on tv, and ideally shout loudly at a tory MP anything possible. Said woman can even become a head of a regional momentum group

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/remember-tory-voting-mum-who-9645557

there should just be a flat tax system rather then a progressive one. maybe a flat 30% tax would be much fairer?

economic

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

*sigh* shall i rephrase so you dont (intentionally) misconstrue my point.

Lifelong problem with weight means person is overweight
One day loses their job, cant get another
Needs to use foodbank

The weight hasnt been put on at the point of need. The weight is not an indicator of legitimately needing to use a foodbank or not.

re-read what i said. people who are eating copius amounts to become fat clearly have a mental dysfunction. very likely this will spill over to other areas of life like finding work or gaining new skills. so this fat person becomes mroe dependent on the state and/or needs foodbank to survive if the person isreally bad. so the point is its not an economic reason the person ended on food banks. its the persons mental dysfunction. which of course is not her fault but most likely due to genetics/upbringing.