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Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

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  • gfplux
    gfplux Posts: 4,985 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Hung up my suit!
    Dixons/car phone get hit by Brexit effect
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/08/24/dixons-carphone-warns-profits-consumers-hold-phones-longer/

    Dixons Carphones' shock announcement came after chief executive Seb James said the weakness of sterling since the Brexit vote had made mobile phone handsets 16pc more expensive while “technical innovation has been more incremental”, he said.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • phillw
    phillw Posts: 5,665 Forumite
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    edited 25 August 2017 at 8:59AM
    Is that your expert medical opinion, doctor?

    Here was me thinking the main causes of obesity were lack of exercise and poor diet... Mainly due to increasingly sedentary lifestyles, and poor dietary choices strongly linked to education and marketing.

    I think the argument is that Poor choices = dysfunction. Diet affects your thinking, making it a vicious cycle.

    There is more than enough information out there about nutrition, you cannot do anything for those who choose to ignore it because they don't think about long term consequences of their actions (which is common in people with low mood).

    The problem is that in a boom the barrier to entry is limited, so that people who are incapable of fixing their own lives will have a good time. Which means that now instead of looking at themselves as the problem, they are looking to cargo cult to get the good times back. Hence the vote to leave the EU..
  • always_sunny
    always_sunny Posts: 8,314 Forumite
    EU expat working in London
  • always_sunny
    always_sunny Posts: 8,314 Forumite
    Boris Johnson concedes UK will have to pay for Brexit
    Foreign secretary says UK will meet legal obligations to pay divorce bill to EU, having previously said it could 'go whistle'


    Another surprise... I wonder what will be next? Perhaps the “they need us more than we need them”?
    La telenovela continua :rotfl:
    EU expat working in London
  • Boris Johnson concedes UK will have to pay for Brexit
    Foreign secretary says UK will meet legal obligations to pay divorce bill to EU, having previously said it could 'go whistle'


    Another surprise... I wonder what will be next? Perhaps the “they need us more than we need them”?
    La telenovela continua :rotfl:

    You beat me to it :( I was about to post the URL with the heading "BoJo and reality collide"
  • phillw
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    Another surprise... I wonder what will be next? Perhaps the “they need us more than we need them”?

    Boris Johnson admitting that he lied is not a surprise, there is no reason for him to keep up the blatant lies as he already managed to manipulate the result he and his rich friends needed.

    I'm waiting for him to admit that brexit will be truly awful for the majority of the country, for now and forever.
  • economic wrote: »
    i never said all fat people have dysfunctional mental problems. all i said those eating copius amounts i.e. large quantities are likely to be suffering a mental problem causing them to eat this way. this spills over to other areas in life and hey you have someone who has a !!!!!! life because of their mental problems.

    of course you get everyday fat people who overeat but not massive amounts and it comes down to simple calorie control (by eating less and/or exercises) as well as age/metabolic reaons.

    On the other hand, if you have ever been overweight - for example if you've been pregnant - and you lose that weight by going from say 2,000 calories a day down to 1,000, you will gradually regain it all if you go back up to 1,200 calories a day.

    Your metabolism resets itself to 1,000 calories a day based on the new lower intake and thinks that's normal, so on a sparse diet of 1,200 calories a day, it sees the extra 200 calories as plenty and wants to store them.

    This is why it is difficult to keep weight off if you have ever been overweight. It's also why most diets peter out after a few months.

    Whether you become overweight or not in the first place includes an element of predisposition. What is certainly true though is that poverty should not cause weight gain. It is actually cheaper to eat organic produce you prepare yourself than to eat ready meals stuffed with salt and flour. Some overweight people are so because they do overeat or overdrink, but the wide incidence of obesity nowadays is clearly down to something else, because we haven't all suddenly turned into Mr. Creosote. What is happening I think is that we are increasingly reliant on poor quality ready meals which is making obese people who are not actually overeating.
  • economic
    economic Posts: 3,002 Forumite
    edited 25 August 2017 at 12:38PM
    On the other hand, if you have ever been overweight - for example if you've been pregnant - and you lose that weight by going from say 2,000 calories a day down to 1,000, you will gradually regain it all if you go back up to 1,200 calories a day.

    Your metabolism resets itself to 1,000 calories a day based on the new lower intake and thinks that's normal, so on a sparse diet of 1,200 calories a day, it sees the extra 200 calories as plenty and wants to store them.

    This is why it is difficult to keep weight off if you have ever been overweight. It's also why most diets peter out after a few months.

    Whether you become overweight or not in the first place includes an element of predisposition. What is certainly true though is that poverty should not cause weight gain. It is actually cheaper to eat organic produce you prepare yourself than to eat ready meals stuffed with salt and flour. Some overweight people are so because they do overeat or overdrink, but the wide incidence of obesity nowadays is clearly down to something else, because we haven't all suddenly turned into Mr. Creosote. What is happening I think is that we are increasingly reliant on poor quality ready meals which is making obese people who are not actually overeating.

    yes i know if you lower your calorie intake drastically your metobolism falls to match this reduced intake and eating over the lowered intake will turn into fat.

    however if you reduce calories very slowly you can burn fat and keep metobolism up. an even more efficient way to do this is to do intense weight training and stay in an overall calorie deficit to burn fat. muscle burns calories even whilst sitting around doing nothing. so the best/easiest way to lose fat and keep it off is actually to build muscle. if you are new to weight training then you can build muscle and burn fat at the same time whilst staying in a calorie deficit mode.

    the above is of course easier said then done. it takes persistency to do this. plus you need to count calories which is difficult to do as how do you know how much you burnt off at the gym? tredmills have calories burnt calculator but weights do not.
  • economic
    economic Posts: 3,002 Forumite
    edited 25 August 2017 at 12:50PM
    also i dont think its ready meals causing the obesity in a significant way. its all about calorie control and optimising it for your body. this means adding muscle and controlling hw many calories you eat.

    also having a larger portion of protein in your diet helps too as you feel more satisfied and less likely to overeat plus it maintains muscles that you despaartely need.

    im not so sure that the whole debate around fat vs carbs vs sugar is that significant. i think it comes down mainly to calories then secondary stuff like sugar control (to reduce insulin spikes) and finding the right balance for your own body as everyone is different.

    theres so much crap you see in the media about this diet or that diet or how you shouldnt do this or that. its all confusing and people shouldnt read any of it. keep it simple. what i have said is what works for bodybuilders. of course you dont have to go that far but you kind of want to mimic wat they do but on a smaller scale.

    of course there is no perfect system as weight training can often lead to injuries. treadmiles can too by ruining your knees. so its about minimising injuries as well.
  • economic
    economic Posts: 3,002 Forumite
    economic wrote: »

    theres so much crap you see in the media about this diet or that diet or how you shouldnt do this or that. its all confusing and people shouldnt read any of it.

    there are also so mny fads that are just not proven:

    - gluten free - no evidence this will make any difference unless you have celiac disease
    - no refined sugar - sugar is sugar whether natural or refined, its the same molecule! except glucose and fructose but neither are better then the other.
    - natual ingredient - all ingrediants come from some natural ingrediant.
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